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Posted on 11/17/2025 4:45:49 AM PST by MtnClimber
I have noticed over the last few months media reports that there are 10 million illegal aliens in the U.S. And now a small group in the U.S. House of Representatives is using that number to ask for amnesty.
Others are addressing the horrible idea itself. This article is a focus on the number they are pushing. This number stood out to me because President Biden let in at least 10 million illegal aliens, and I thought there were more than 10 million in the U.S. before President Biden was elected. My radar went on full alert.
So I did some research. According to the 2020 U.S. Census, there were at least 12 million illegals in the U.S. in that year. So if we had at least 12 million in 2020, and President Biden let in at least 10 million, that means we had at least 22 million in the U.S. in January of 2025.
I have to call BS on the 10 million number they are using. All the numbers are estimates, and these estimates are being generated by people with a pro-illegal agenda. There are at least 22 million illegals, not 10 million, and I believe that these estimates are likely underestimates. I refuse even to have a onversation with people who provably lie to push their agenda.
This false amnesty plan is another trap, and it is dishonest in so many ways, the least of which is the number being presented.
Any talk of amnesty increases the number of illegals. Reagan conservatives found out the hard way. The amnesty granted in the 1980s did not slow down illegal immigration. The Biden open border along with the possibility of hiding in the U.S. with the remote possibility of future amnesty is also a draw.
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They have been claiming 12 million since at least Clinton’s administration. During that time they were admitting at least a million illegals a year every year. Same under Bush, but they still used the same 12 million figure. Under Obama the numbers went radically higher, but still claiming 12 million. The numbers slowed under Trump 1.0, then went up to maybe 3 million a year. Yet they still claim the same numbers.
If you assume 12 million as your starting point, then add a million a year for the 24 years of Clinton-Bush-Obama, you’re at nearly 40. Add then another 12 million or so under Biden and we’re above 50 million.
That’s ignoring the million or so *legal* immigrants per year during the same time period and you get what we’ve all seen, a major demographic shift in our population with all the logical consequences for wages and housing and other costs to our society.
My question has always been, if a million *legal* immigrants isn’t enough, then what is the magic number? Who decides what that number should be? When have they ever consulted the American people on any of it?
Self deportations are already at 1.6 million and more than 400,000 have been deported for a total of over 2 million just in the first 9 months of Trump’s presidency. So if we can get to 2.5-3 million a year, than we will have 10-11 million by the end of President Trump’s term.
Send them home and many of our problems will go with them. Housing will be plentiful, energy costs will decrease, inflation will decrease, and health care will improve.
America First!
Sounds like the number is whatever people want to make up, and they want to make up a big number.
30-40 million illegals including all the asylum scammers that Zombie Joe flooded us with. These scammers are technically not illegal aliens. Even though they were border jumpers.
The numbers do not simply add.
There is inflow, but yes, there always has been an outflow (even under Biden!)
Some of the illegals never intend to stay.
They make enough money to go back and start business or so and get set for life in their original country.
Some even came to just to get the medical treatment they cannot get home because of socialized medicine there.
On the other hand, some became legal after some time, using all kind of legal maneuvers.
Some also die.
They’ve been saying “12 million” for DECADES.
My money says 30+ million easy.
The media have been reporting 13 million illegals for decades now - hell, there are that many in Los Angeles alone.
So the number has shrunk after Biden let in at least 10-20 million illegals during his regime?
I suspect the actual number of illegals is closer to 50 million.
All need to be tossed out.
When you throw in anchor babies the numbers are catastrophic.
Yes, anchor babies are illegals.
Exactly. Eleven must be a magic number, because they keep using it.
I remember arguing with my father-in-law before the *2004* election. He said “we need immigrants,” and I said “We don’t need ELEVEN MILLION of them!”
Gosh, it seems like a century ago.
Apparently the monthly deportation numbers are so big the administration won’t release them. One thing this admin is consistent about is remaining humble and not bragging about its successes.
It was 10 to 13 million for a couple of decades according to Numbers USA and even before bidet opened the flood gates and also started going out to pick the up and fly them in.
The number is between 20 and 30 million. AT LEAST. Far and away enough to change the nation for the worse. And they have.
Try 60 million. Put on an ICE jacket and walk by a construction area. They will scatter like flies. This problem has been going on since the 70s and will not get fixed because the politicians are corrupted.
I’d like to see everyone of the Biden administration criminals who paid for with taxpayer dollars, orchestrated and allowed the invasion of the USA go to prison for the rest of their lives. There has to be consequences for what they did to all of us.
People come, but people go too
People die.
People are self deporting in good numbers with the app they put out.
I don’t know how many are in this country illegally. But it’s not a simple sum, there were 11 million 22 million entered now we have 33 million. They go back and forth, they die, they reproduce, they self deport…they get imprisoned…
A country should know within a slight margin of error who is here at any given time. We have been so badly damaged by the free immigration disaster.
We were told that we had 12 million illegals ever since Bill Clinton. For the next 20 years, they used the same figure like no on new was coming in.
Then Joe Biden let in more than 10 million alone in 4 years. The real figure was more like 30 million+. Add in recent kids and you got close to 45 million.
IT WAS AN ACCEPTED NUMBER OF 20+++ MILLION IN THE LATE 60’S & EARLY 70’s.
NO WAY IT WAS ANYTHING LESS.
BIDEN DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN MORE THAN 10 MILLION.
BOTH OBAMA & BIDEN FLEW PEOPLE PAST THE BORDERS.
A COUPLE OF PLANE LOADS SHOWED UP OVERNIGHT IN BOISE WITHOUT ANY WARNING TO ANYONE.
GET BETTER NUMBERS FROM THE SCHOOLS.
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