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Wait a minute — how many illegal aliens are in our country again?
American Thinker ^ | 16 Nov, 2025 | Maker S. Mark

Posted on 11/17/2025 4:45:49 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

They have been claiming 12 million since at least Clinton’s administration. During that time they were admitting at least a million illegals a year every year. Same under Bush, but they still used the same 12 million figure. Under Obama the numbers went radically higher, but still claiming 12 million. The numbers slowed under Trump 1.0, then went up to maybe 3 million a year. Yet they still claim the same numbers.

If you assume 12 million as your starting point, then add a million a year for the 24 years of Clinton-Bush-Obama, you’re at nearly 40. Add then another 12 million or so under Biden and we’re above 50 million.

That’s ignoring the million or so *legal* immigrants per year during the same time period and you get what we’ve all seen, a major demographic shift in our population with all the logical consequences for wages and housing and other costs to our society.

My question has always been, if a million *legal* immigrants isn’t enough, then what is the magic number? Who decides what that number should be? When have they ever consulted the American people on any of it?


41 posted on 11/17/2025 6:54:16 AM PST by marron
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To: Lopeover

Self deportations are already at 1.6 million and more than 400,000 have been deported for a total of over 2 million just in the first 9 months of Trump’s presidency. So if we can get to 2.5-3 million a year, than we will have 10-11 million by the end of President Trump’s term.


42 posted on 11/17/2025 6:56:39 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: MtnClimber
Between illegals, fake refugees (here legally under bogus claims of asylum) and the H-1B job thieves, there's 100 million people here who need to go home.

Send them home and many of our problems will go with them. Housing will be plentiful, energy costs will decrease, inflation will decrease, and health care will improve.

America First!

43 posted on 11/17/2025 6:58:06 AM PST by Drew68
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To: MtnClimber

Sounds like the number is whatever people want to make up, and they want to make up a big number.


44 posted on 11/17/2025 7:08:20 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: MtnClimber

30-40 million illegals including all the asylum scammers that Zombie Joe flooded us with. These scammers are technically not illegal aliens. Even though they were border jumpers.


45 posted on 11/17/2025 7:14:16 AM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: MtnClimber

The numbers do not simply add.
There is inflow, but yes, there always has been an outflow (even under Biden!)
Some of the illegals never intend to stay.
They make enough money to go back and start business or so and get set for life in their original country.
Some even came to just to get the medical treatment they cannot get home because of socialized medicine there.
On the other hand, some became legal after some time, using all kind of legal maneuvers.
Some also die.


46 posted on 11/17/2025 7:21:15 AM PST by AZJeep (sane )
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To: MtnClimber

They’ve been saying “12 million” for DECADES.

My money says 30+ million easy.


47 posted on 11/17/2025 7:27:37 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: MtnClimber

The media have been reporting 13 million illegals for decades now - hell, there are that many in Los Angeles alone.

So the number has shrunk after Biden let in at least 10-20 million illegals during his regime?

I suspect the actual number of illegals is closer to 50 million.

All need to be tossed out.


48 posted on 11/17/2025 7:32:52 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: MtnClimber

When you throw in anchor babies the numbers are catastrophic.

Yes, anchor babies are illegals.


49 posted on 11/17/2025 7:38:03 AM PST by ChuckHam
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To: BobL

Exactly. Eleven must be a magic number, because they keep using it.

I remember arguing with my father-in-law before the *2004* election. He said “we need immigrants,” and I said “We don’t need ELEVEN MILLION of them!”

Gosh, it seems like a century ago.


50 posted on 11/17/2025 7:48:23 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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Apparently the monthly deportation numbers are so big the administration won’t release them. One thing this admin is consistent about is remaining humble and not bragging about its successes.


51 posted on 11/17/2025 8:13:53 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: MtnClimber

It was 10 to 13 million for a couple of decades according to Numbers USA and even before bidet opened the flood gates and also started going out to pick the up and fly them in.

The number is between 20 and 30 million. AT LEAST. Far and away enough to change the nation for the worse. And they have.


52 posted on 11/17/2025 8:18:51 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: MtnClimber

Try 60 million. Put on an ICE jacket and walk by a construction area. They will scatter like flies. This problem has been going on since the 70s and will not get fixed because the politicians are corrupted.


53 posted on 11/17/2025 8:35:49 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: MtnClimber

I’d like to see everyone of the Biden administration criminals who paid for with taxpayer dollars, orchestrated and allowed the invasion of the USA go to prison for the rest of their lives. There has to be consequences for what they did to all of us.


54 posted on 11/17/2025 8:53:18 AM PST by drypowder
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To: FLT-bird

People come, but people go too

People die.

People are self deporting in good numbers with the app they put out.

I don’t know how many are in this country illegally. But it’s not a simple sum, there were 11 million 22 million entered now we have 33 million. They go back and forth, they die, they reproduce, they self deport…they get imprisoned…

A country should know within a slight margin of error who is here at any given time. We have been so badly damaged by the free immigration disaster.


55 posted on 11/17/2025 8:54:49 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: MtnClimber

We were told that we had 12 million illegals ever since Bill Clinton. For the next 20 years, they used the same figure like no on new was coming in.

Then Joe Biden let in more than 10 million alone in 4 years. The real figure was more like 30 million+. Add in recent kids and you got close to 45 million.


56 posted on 11/17/2025 8:55:34 AM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: BobL

IT WAS AN ACCEPTED NUMBER OF 20+++ MILLION IN THE LATE 60’S & EARLY 70’s.

NO WAY IT WAS ANYTHING LESS.


57 posted on 11/17/2025 9:23:43 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Yo-Yo

BIDEN DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN MORE THAN 10 MILLION.


58 posted on 11/17/2025 9:24:15 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Freee-dame

BOTH OBAMA & BIDEN FLEW PEOPLE PAST THE BORDERS.

A COUPLE OF PLANE LOADS SHOWED UP OVERNIGHT IN BOISE WITHOUT ANY WARNING TO ANYONE.


59 posted on 11/17/2025 9:25:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: AZJeep

GET BETTER NUMBERS FROM THE SCHOOLS.


60 posted on 11/17/2025 9:26:19 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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