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Toyota’s New Battery: Aluminum-Ion Wonder or Solid-State Reality?
aluminium.com ^ | 8/14/2025 | Dr. Vab

Posted on 11/13/2025 8:29:11 AM PST by Signalman

The electric vehicle (EV) world is buzzing with rumors about a revolutionary new battery from Toyota. Whispers of a 1000-mile range and a 5-minute charge time have dominated headlines and YouTube videos, all pointing to a groundbreaking aluminum-ion battery. But what’s the real story behind these incredible claims? We dove deep into the official announcements to separate the hype from reality for our readers at aluminiumion.com.

The Aluminum-Ion Buzz Recent online reports have been ablaze with claims of a game-changing aluminum-ion battery from Toyota. These reports, largely fueled by a series of viral YouTube videos, suggest that Toyota’s CEO, Koji Sato, has unveiled a battery that could make current lithium-ion technology obsolete. The rumored benefits include:

A 1000-mile driving range A 5-minute charging time Lower cost and greater abundance of aluminum compared to lithium Improved safety and recyclability If true, this would be the breakthrough the EV industry has been waiting for. But as with all things that sound too good to be true, a closer look at the official source is necessary.

Toyota’s Official Roadmap: Solid-State is the Star While the idea of an aluminum-ion battery is exciting, Toyota’s official battery technology roadmap tells a slightly different, but no less impressive, story. The company’s primary focus for next-generation battery technology is on solid-state batteries.

According to Toyota’s own news releases, they have made a significant breakthrough in solid-state battery technology and are aiming for mass production by 2027-2028. Here’s what Toyota’s solid-state batteries are expected to deliver:

A 20% increase in cruising range compared to their upcoming “Performance” lithium-ion batteries, which are already targeting a range of over 800km (around 500 miles). This could mean a future range of nearly 1000km (over 600 miles). A rapid charging time of 10 minutes or less (from 10-80% state of charge). Improved safety due to the use of a solid electrolyte instead of a liquid one, which reduces the risk of fires.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aluminum; automotive; battery; batterybreakthru; solidstate; toyota

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To: aquila48

“I read the whole article - what did I miss?”

“a closer look at the official source is necessary.”


61 posted on 11/13/2025 2:22:06 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Skwor

“Whoever wrote this article is clueless about physics.”

Not at all. Please cite what makes you think that.


62 posted on 11/13/2025 2:23:30 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Skwor

/11s I recall a level 2 charger, typically the best you can get for a home, which already requires a serious electrical upgrade, “

You can plug it into an existing dryer outlet ...


63 posted on 11/13/2025 2:25:18 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: TexasGator

The amperage needed to charge at the rate cited is of the chart dangerous.


64 posted on 11/13/2025 2:26:37 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TexasGator

30 amps is not going to charge 1000 miles in 1/2 hour.


65 posted on 11/13/2025 2:28:20 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Tell It Right

“My point is that even if we drop it down from the 1,000 miles in 5 minutes charging to the much more practical restroom break time for driving at 300 miles charged in 10 minutes, it’d still demand way more power capacity than we have now. “

Tesla V4 can do that on 15 minutes.

BYD charger can do that in 7.5 minutes.


66 posted on 11/13/2025 2:29:41 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Paladin2

“Why is it impossible to recycle cooling water?”

You have to discharge the heat.

Simple radiators would be too large.

Cooling towers use the latent heat of evaporation and the are still very large. This evaporation has to be replaced.

River or ocean cooling can be used but their are strict temperature limits on the effluent.


67 posted on 11/13/2025 2:34:26 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: central_va

“The amperage needed to charge at the rate cited is of the chart dangerous.”

Already in use ...


68 posted on 11/13/2025 2:35:37 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: central_va

“30 amps is not going to charge 1000 miles in 1/2 hour.”

It can if the voltage is high enough.


69 posted on 11/13/2025 2:39:27 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: TexasGator

A closer look at your idiot brain is necessary!


70 posted on 11/13/2025 2:39:30 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

“A closer look at your idiot brain is necessary!”

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71 posted on 11/13/2025 2:41:33 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: mikelets456
""""What’s the best way to invest in aluminum?""""

Find a way to store it.

Houston house built with beer cans.


72 posted on 11/13/2025 2:53:58 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Skwor
"LOL you are in buss bar territory to transfer that kind of current, the ones we use in power plants, not cables, literal bars of cooper that are also cooled."

Already in use with cables. BYD 1000 kw charger.


73 posted on 11/13/2025 2:56:48 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Signalman; Red Badger

Red Badger ping


74 posted on 11/13/2025 3:00:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: central_va

“The amperage needed to charge at the rate cited is of the chart dangerous.


This guy doesn’t think so!


BYD’s 5-Minute EV Fast Charging: We Tried It. It’s A Game-Changer

BYD’s new Megawatt charging proves that 5-minute charging stops are possible. And China will get there first.

https://insideevs.com/news/758625/byd-megawatt-charging-demo-china/


75 posted on 11/13/2025 3:13:51 PM PST by TexasGator (/.)
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To: Signalman; Red Badger
Add Toyota’s New Battery: Aluminum-Ion Wonder or Solid-State Reality? to the list of batterybreakthru (add as KEYWORD) threads, though as yet I have never seen any become what is hoped for:

A New Solid-State Battery Could Take Your EV an Astounding 800 Miles on a Single Charge

A sustainable battery with a biodegradable electrolyte made from crab shells https://www.eurekalert.org/ ^ | 1-SEP-2022 |
More Range from Nickel-Rich Electric Vehicle Batteries cleantechnica.com ^ | Dec 21, 2023 | By Oliver Peckham, PNNL
Elon Musk Announces Tesla's NEW Aluminum-ion Super Battery with 15-min Charging www.youtube.com ^ | November 23, 2024
Silver set to soar on Samsung’s solid-state battery breakthrough – analysts Kitco news ^ | 8/19/24 | Jordan Finneseth
The Secret to Unlimited Energy Is in a Coin-Sized Battery—And China Is Already Producing It Popular Mechanics ^ | March 25, 2025 | Darren Orf Posted on 3/25/2025,
Fully Charged in Just 12 Minutes! Korean Scientists Develop Next-Gen Lithium–Sulfur Battery Scitech Daily ^ | January 09, 2025 | Daegu Gyeongbuk Institute of Science and Technology (DGIST)
How CATL Made Batteries 90% Cheaper (And What Happens Next) [14:19] YouTube ^ | August 12, 2025 | Undecided with Matt Ferrell What if I told you the world's largest battery company just announced batteries that cost as low as $10 per kilowatt hour? Not $100. Ten. And the kicker? They're using salt.
New tech gives batteries over 12,000 charges without losing power Earth.Com ^ | October 24, 2025 | Jordan Joseph Posted on 10/24/2025, 3:57:18 PM by Red Badger
BYD's 5-Minute EV Fast Charging: We Tried It. It's A Game-Changer Inside EVs ^ | May 07, 2025 | Staff Posted on 5/11/2025, 11:12:19 AM by Red Badger
Solid lithium-air battery hits 4x energy, breaks room-temperature performance barrier Interesting Engineering ^ Posted on 6/11/2025, 1:36:23 PM by Red Badger
That big battery breakthrough EV lovers talk about isn't ... Torque News https://www.torquenews.com › big-battery-breakthrou... Jul 6, 2014 — ... in battery tech that EV enthusiasts always claim is coming anytime now? ... Most of the battery breakthroughs taking place in the lab ...
Why We Don't Have Battery Breakthroughs MIT Technology Review https://www.technologyreview.com › ... › Clean energy Feb 10, 2015 — Why We Don't Have Battery Breakthroughs ... notably A123 Systems, began with bold claims but failed to deliver (see “What Happened to A123?
Musk hints at new battery breakthrough on the horizon Electrek https://electrek.co › 2017/08/03 › elon-musk-hints-at-... Aug 3, 2017 —
Nanotech Energy Claims Its Graphene Lithium Battery Will ... CleanTechnica https://cleantechnica.com › 2020/05/25 › nanotech-en... May 25, 2020 — CleanTechnica readers are a suspicious lot. We have seen hundreds of announcements about revolutionary battery breakthroughs, but so far, the ..
Solid State Battery Tech Breakthrough : r/Futurology Reddit https://www.reddit.com › comments › xgmmji › solid_st... Sep 17, 2022 — Claimed to be ~2.5x more dense then current LiON tech. ... Oh I'm not at all skeptical of other fields, just battery breakthroughs.
This super energy dense battery could nearly double the ... https://www.technologyreview.com › 2020/12/08 › qu... Dec 8, 2020 — Albertus notes that there's a rich history of premature claims of battery breakthroughs, so any new ones are met with skepticism.
This New Battery Tech Will Change Electric Cars | By CNET Facebook https://www.facebook.com › ... › CNET › Videos 8:59 Now, it's still a lithium ion battery but Selah claims that one ... they think about battery breakthroughs that seem to be in the offing. Facebook · CNET · Jul 18, 2022
Promise To Reality- 5 Battery Breakthroughs That Could ... Saur Energy International https://www.saurenergy.com › ev-storage › promise-to... May 11, 2022 — Promise To Reality- 5 Battery Breakthroughs That Could Make It To Market Soon. By Junaid Shah/ Updated On Wed, May 11th, 2022.
Toyota claims battery breakthrough in potential boost for ... News YCombinator https://news.ycombinator.com › item Jul 4, 2023 — Personal transport just doesn't make the list. ... The list goes on. ... Are you implying there haven't been any battery breakthroughs?
Battery Breakthroughs Coming Quickly Climate Denial Crock of the Week https://climatecrocks.com › 2023/04/17 › battery-brea... Apr 17, 2023 — Battery Breakthroughs Coming Quickly ... a newcomer making big claims about supplying the world with cheaper, safer batteries to store clean ...
Scientists hail new battery with 4 times energy density of ... The Driven | https://thedriven.io › 2023/04/03 › scientists-hail-new-... Apr 3, 2023 — I think that battery breakthroughs are rare events, but it looks like there's loads of R&D going on. tunneslofreality • 3 months ago.

Renewables lobby overstates battery 'breakthroughs' The Australian https://www.theaustralian.com.au › ... › "News Story" Renewables lobby overstates battery 'breakthroughs' ... The renewables lobby, despite its claims of being technology-agnostic and financially imparti

56 posted on 10/28/2025, 8:52:13 AM by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212; SunkenCiv
And add to above a list by SunkenCiv (which Google will likely ignore, per usual):

The rest of the CATL keyword, sorted:


76 posted on 11/13/2025 3:19:12 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: TexasGator

Ah, I was right! You even had to resort to AI to help you make a lame response!

Try asking your friend at AI what they call people like you that post snarky comments like, “Not reading the whole article?”, instead of intelligently addressing my original comment?

You don’t even have the sense to know that snarky comments are also insulting.


77 posted on 11/13/2025 3:30:28 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

I apologize.

Instead of “Not reading the whole article?” I should have posted “Not reading the whole article.”


78 posted on 11/13/2025 3:32:46 PM PST by TexasGator (1/.)
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To: Bobbyvotes

The most common EV use is around town and such vehicles are charged at home at a slow and manageable rate. The fast charge rate will be rarely if ever used and is no doubt cited as an indication that a major advance in battery technology is in the offing.


79 posted on 11/13/2025 3:38:37 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Tell It Right

“I agree on the article being a bastardization of physics.”

Please cite an example.


80 posted on 11/13/2025 3:45:03 PM PST by TexasGator (1/.)
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