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1 posted on 11/12/2025 4:59:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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If higher education were forced to live by the rules they have spread through their indoctrination things would change. Every deadly stupid insane murderous idea comes out of a college.


2 posted on 11/12/2025 5:00:49 PM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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The system that has been created to pay hospitals, doctors, and nurses was started in the 1930s with the best of intentions.

It has taken many steps, between 1948 and now to get us to the point of collapse - but here we are.

There is no way out.


3 posted on 11/12/2025 5:03:35 PM PST by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Matty)
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Projections for 2026 forecast premium escalations of close to 10 percent nationally for employer-sponsored plans, while some carriers issue renewal quotes exceeding 18 percent.


And you can thank obummercare....


5 posted on 11/12/2025 5:11:41 PM PST by God luvs America
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If higher education was in a competitive market without government subsidies and tuition guarantees, they would be a lot more leaner, efficient and productive.


8 posted on 11/12/2025 5:14:42 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Trump has arrived and it is awesome to have a real President.)
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Info from google ai as fyi. Huge huge difference in how much people actually paid for healthcare out of their pocket in the 1950s vs now. Good and bad.

“1950s
In the 1950s, health insurance was a newer concept, and coverage was less comprehensive:

Overall Coverage: In 1950, insurance covered just 12% of total private consumer health expenditures; this increased to about 33% by 1964.

Surgical Coverage: While surgical benefits were a core part of early plans, along with hospital care, individuals were still responsible for a substantial portion of the bill. In 1955, voluntary insurance benefits covered about 23% of the aggregate personal expenditures for all medical care and health services.

Out-of-Pocket: The majority of healthcare expenses, particularly for physician services outside of surgery and hospitalization, were paid for directly by the patient out-of-pocket. The prevalence of direct payment meant patients were more connected to the actual cost of their care.

Now (2020s)
The modern healthcare landscape is fundamentally different, with insurance covering a much larger share of the total cost:

Overall Coverage: In 2020, out-of-pocket spending represented only about 10% of total health spending, a massive flip from the mid-20th century.

Surgical Coverage: For typical operations, modern employer-sponsored plans might cover 80% to 100% of the negotiated cost after a deductible is met, with patient responsibility limited to deductibles, copayments, and coinsurance.

Out-of-Pocket Maximums: A key difference is the implementation of annual out-of-pocket maximums in most modern plans, which limit a patient’s total financial exposure in a given year, a protection largely absent in earlier, less comprehensive policies


11 posted on 11/12/2025 5:56:38 PM PST by plain talk
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In 1962, my mother would take me to the doctor (an MD) and the bill would be $5.00 which she paid at time of service. That $5.00 in 1962 has the purchasing power of $53.00 today. There was no insurance involved in the transaction.

My most recent (2025) visit with my primary care provider (a PA), the bill total was $817 for a routine exam. Insurance covered $667.69 and I paid out of pocket $139.31. I spent about 15 minutes with the PA, and less than 5 minutes with the nurse who took my vitals prior to the PA. There was routine bloodwork associated with the visit which cost $40.00.

My family medical doctor 1962 was in a solo practice. His only employee was a registered nurse. His office was located in a small 5 room addition to his home in a rural village.

My physician in 2025 (a PA) works for a hospital system that bought the practice about 10 years ago from the 6 MD’s who started in the 1980’s. The practice currently is housed in a spacious stand alone clinical building with a huge waiting room, multiple exam rooms, a lab, and an X-ray machine. There are 10 physicians or PA’s who attend patients, several nursing assistants (not RN’s), and at least 8 administrative people who man the reception desk or are scattered around the building staring at computer screens. In addition to pay a physical charge and a clinic charge I pay an outpatient hospital facility fee even though the clinic is located several miles from the hospital.

The family doctor in 1962 had almost no overhead and little administrative burden since most patients (rural farmers) had no insurance and paid cash at time of service. The clinic today has a huge administrative overhead which undoubtedly is a significant part of the bill plus there is the cost of overhead and profit associated with the insurance company.

In 1962 two people were involved in my care, the physician and the nurse. In 2025 a huge administrative hospital and insurance bureaucracy is supported by my payments for a simple physician visit.

Is my health care significantly better than it was in 1962? From my perspective, than answer is no. Yet the cost is astronomically higher.


13 posted on 11/12/2025 6:23:37 PM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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They have too many non-teachers


15 posted on 11/12/2025 6:48:36 PM PST by alternatives?
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“averaging $27,000 annually per family”

More than the typical pay of a typical Walmart associate.


19 posted on 11/12/2025 7:13:47 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Not just higher education.

Check out your local school district’s budget...


20 posted on 11/12/2025 7:16:41 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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