Posted on 11/12/2025 8:32:28 AM PST by Red Badger
Roll over, Beethoven Ping!...................
Let me guess - he’s actually a transgender African!
or... that wasn’t locks of his hair
“Unexpectedly, an analysis of Y chromosomes sequenced from five living members of the Van Beethoven patrilineage revealed the occurrence of an extra-pair paternity event in Ludwig van Beethoven’s patrilineal ancestry.”
Momma’s baby, Daddy’s Maybe...............He may not have been a ‘Beethoven’.........
(Groupies Cut Locks of Beethoven’s Hair… Two Centuries Later, Scientists Reveal Shocking DNA Results)
Turns out that he was using Pantene.
He got a free sample in his junk mail 📬.
Well, there really is no such thing as “junk mail”...
It takes just as much effort to deliver it....
Newman!!
Poor Beethoven trusted the science.
Lead was in a lot of things in those days..including hair colors and medicines.
Fascinating. And I never knew they could get DNA from hair snips. I thought you had to have roots. Anyone know?
Yes, the root is not necessary, but it helps. The DNA in the hair shaft is fragmented but recoverable.............
I have roast beeth in the oven right now.
Abstract
While the idea that Beethoven had African ancestry became popular in the 1960s during the Civil Rights struggle in the United States, its conception arose during an earlier moment: the global New Negro movement of the 1920s. Appearing in newspaper columns, music journals, and essays, Black American writings on Beethoven challenged white musicians’ claims to the canon of Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms. This article argues that the project of making Beethoven Black belonged to a greater and more ambitious endeavour to rewrite Western music history. Black musicologists sought to globalize the Western canon, and in so doing, critique its grand narratives. Locating Black musical idioms in eighteenth-century piano sonatas or conducting archival research on Black European figures such as George Bridgetower, their music histories challenged readers to re-examine just who, exactly, had contributed to the project of cultural modernity and on what grounds.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/twentieth-century-music/article/making-beethoven-black-the-new-negro-movement-black-internationalism-and-the-rewriting-of-music-history/EE7BEFD9FB9D795D76F6EB741C3E8566
I don’t see any particular surprise with his DNA.
The lead and whatnot are somewhat surprising (not really? Given what passed for medicine at they time), but that has nothing to do with his lineage.
Former Bravo star Jennifer Welch, during a discussion in November 2025, she stated, “Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism,” and in a separate comment, referred to “crusty” old white people as having “no culture”.
Thanks. Fingers crossed the technology gets into the affordable range for ancestry testing. But you give me hope.
How many here are going to search for “Ode to Joy” to listen to? This is one I found that I like - simple without the orchestra...
The DNA in his Y chromosome doesn’t match the Beethoven family mitochondrial (female) line.............
Sounds from inside Beethoven's tomb were heard, and the authorities summoned. Opening it up, they found Beethoven, who had composed so wonderfully, writing on parchment paper with a quill pen. Crossing out line after line, it was found he was de-composing.
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