Posted on 11/04/2025 3:02:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv
What's really happening with AI and Amazon's layoffs?
The common story is that automation killed 30,000 jobs -- but the reality is more complicated.
In this video, I share the inside scoop on what's actually driving these cuts and what it reveals about the AI economy:
For operators and teams, the takeaway is clear: AI isn't replacing labor yet -- it's reallocating capital, and understanding that shift will define who wins the next decade. The Dirty Secret Behind Amazon's 30,000 Cuts: Nvidia | 9:10
AI News & Strategy Daily | Nate B Jones | 76.4K subscribers | 94,239 views | October 29, 2025
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--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- 0:01 · Amazon laid off 30,000 people this week 0:03 · in a move that had been widely 0:05 · telegraphed for months. But the real 0:07 · story is not about AI and jobs. The 0:11 · story I'm seeing over and over and over 0:13 · again in the news media is, hey, AI is 0:16 · automating all of these jobs. This is 0:18 · why we're seeing this. We're going to 0:20 · see more of these cuts. The media seems 0:22 · really excited about that story and they 0:24 · just want to keep telling it. And I got 0:26 · to say it keeps not being in this case. 0:30 · There's a very interesting reason why 0:32 · it's incorrect. And I think it's 0:34 · actually really important for us to 0:35 · understand because it gets at a core 0:37 · narrative that a lot of people have 0:39 · about AI that is wrong. So what actually 0:42 · happened here? Number one, you need to 0:44 · understand where Amazon's business came 0:46 · from. I spent half a decade at Amazon. 0:47 · I'm very fluent in this. Amazon makes 0:50 · their money on AWS, not on retail. The 0:53 · whole store doesn't do anything, right? 0:54 · that the margins on the store are 0:56 · ridiculously low. They make no money. 0:58 · They would not be a profitable company. 0:59 · Jeff Bezos would not be wandering around 1:01 · in a yacht. Amazon makes their money on 1:03 · AWS, which means the entire street, all 1:06 · of Wall Street checks AWS's growth 1:09 · numbers every single year obsessively to 1:12 · tell whether or not Amazon is doing 1:15 · well. And the problem is that AWS's 1:18 · growth numbers have been declining for 1:21 · the last few years. And so they're down 1:23 · to 18% growth year-over-year, which is a 1:25 · deceleration in their last quarterly 1:27 · report. And the street doesn't like it. 1:30 · And part of the reason the street 1:31 · doesn't like it is that in the meantime, 1:34 · AWS's two main rivals, Google Cloud and 1:38 · Microsoft Azure, have been catching up 1:40 · and they have been doing so with AI. 1:43 · Right? If you think about where to go 1:45 · for AI, you think about Azure and you 1:47 · think about Google Cloud. And I got to 1:49 · be honest, AWS is a distant third. They 1:53 · just aren't there. And so the challenge 1:55 · for AWS is they need to show that they 1:58 · are still serious players in the AI era. 2:02 · To do that, what do you need? You need a 2:04 · specific piece of hardware that Jensen 2:06 · Fuang sells that nobody else has. It's 2:08 · the Nvidia GPU. I well there's a few 2:10 · others that have GPUs but by and large 2:13 · it's all Jensen's GPUs and you got to 2:15 · buy a bunch of them and they don't come 2:18 · cheap like think of this as a computer 2:20 · chip that is worth a car and you have to 2:22 · buy thousands and thousands and tens and 2:24 · thousands of them to get anywhere with 2:26 · AI especially at scale especially if 2:28 · you're serving corporations that is the 2:31 · dilemma that AWS faces now look at it 2:34 · from a corporate finance perspective you 2:36 · have to do that without damaging your 2:39 · margins in AWS because the whole reason 2:42 · Amazon is worth anything as a company is 2:45 · because of AWS's margin. So you don't 2:48 · dare damage AWS's margins to get this 2:51 · job done, but you have to buy a whole 2:54 · bunch of GPUs. In finance terms, you 2:57 · have to add a ton to your capital 3:00 · expenditures, your capex. Well, if 3:03 · you're going to do that and you want to 3:04 · keep your margins consistent, you have 3:06 · to cut other places that are in your 3:08 · expenses category. You have to look at 3:10 · other fixed expenses. And what is the 3:12 · biggest fixed expense category that you 3:14 · have? It is salaries. It's salaries. 3:17 · That is what they're looking at. And so 3:19 · when you have that tradeoff, what you 3:21 · should really be looking at is Amazon 3:24 · did not fire 30,000 people because AI 3:28 · automation was already taking their 3:30 · jobs. Amazon fired 30,000 people because 3:34 · they needed the money today in order to 3:37 · buy GPUs to desperately try to secure a 3:41 · place in the future of AI cloud. That is 3:44 · the actual story. Now, that story does 3:47 · not sound as nice for Amazon as a future 3:49 · forward story about how we're automating 3:51 · with AI. So, the story Amazon's putting 3:54 · out is, hey, we're automating with AI, 3:57 · so we don't need these jobs anymore. No. 3:59 · Especially as someone who worked there, 4:01 · the interior workflows at Amazon, and 4:04 · anyone will tell you this, this is not 4:05 · proprietary. It's all duct tape and 4:07 · bailing wire in there. Like, everyone 4:09 · does a lot of manual stuff. And that's 4:11 · been very intentional as Amazon has 4:13 · grown because it helps us keep costs low 4:15 · for customers. And so, there is not a 4:17 · huge massive automation magical solution 4:21 · that they have invented that allows them 4:23 · to right now cut 30,000 jobs. It just 4:25 · that's not how it works. The people who 4:28 · remain are very stressed. They may have 4:30 · ambitious projects to eventually bring 4:32 · AI into those areas. But if I'm looking 4:34 · at it at a very high level, what I see 4:37 · is not an investment roadmap for AI 4:40 · automation that is already paid off that 4:43 · they're trying to show. No, what I see 4:46 · is Amazon saying these are areas where 4:48 · we can afford to take a risk on less 4:51 · talent getting less done. In other 4:52 · words, these are areas that we can 4:54 · divest a little bit. And that's 4:55 · interesting because that makes a whole 4:57 · lot of sense when you look at where some 4:59 · of these cuts happened. As an example, 5:01 · MGM got hit, the Hollywood studio that 5:04 · Amazon bought a few years ago. I got to 5:06 · say, if you're asking yourself, is this 5:08 · an area where we have already invested 5:10 · our best efforts to automate AI right 5:13 · away? MGM would not be at the top of my 5:15 · list. I do not think that is the most 5:17 · strategic place in Amazon where Amazon 5:20 · would have poured vast resources to 5:22 · invest in AI. No. But I do think it 5:25 · makes a ton of sense as a place where 5:28 · Amazon would say we can invest less for 5:30 · a little bit and cut talent for a bit 5:32 · because we desperately need to 5:34 · reallocate cash over to the GPU side of 5:38 · the business. Well, that makes a lot of 5:40 · sense, doesn't it? And people aren't 5:42 · reporting that. And here's the reason 5:43 · why all of this matters. The narrative 5:46 · out there is very simple. We are in a 5:49 · bubble. Everywhere I look, we are in a 5:50 · bubble. AI is a bubble. AI is a bubble. 5:52 · But step back, take a breath, don't just 5:55 · obsess over the news. If we are in a 5:58 · bubble, why does Amazon have a 25% 6:03 · essentially overage rate? Right? The the 6:05 · the amount of demand they have for for 6:07 · GPUs right now vastly exceeds the 6:10 · available GPUs. Would that be true if we 6:13 · were in a bubble? Demand is a sign that 6:17 · we are not in a bubble. surging 6:19 · corporate demand that Azure has trouble 6:21 · meeting because Azure's expanded their 6:23 · data center investments this year that 6:25 · Google Cloud has trouble meeting that 6:27 · Amazon has tons of trouble meeting is a 6:30 · sign that we have built something with 6:33 · AI that is valuable enough that 6:36 · corporations are lining up like crazy to 6:38 · buy it. If you have customers out the 6:41 · door and cannot serve enough chips to 6:44 · all of them, that is a sign that you are 6:47 · not in a bubble. Ipso facto. By 6:50 · definition, it is a sign that you are 6:52 · not in a bubble. And I don't understand 6:54 · why this is so hard for people. I don't 6:57 · understand why journalists are so 6:59 · interested in pedalling the narrative 7:01 · that AI has already automated jobs and 7:04 · that somehow we are simultaneously in a 7:05 · bubble because both of those things 7:07 · cannot be true at once. If we lived in a 7:10 · world where AI had magically automated 7:12 · away all jobs or whatever they're 7:14 · claiming, well then it wouldn't be a 7:16 · bubble because people would like 7:18 · corporations would have demand for that, 7:19 · right? They they would ask for that to 7:21 · happen so they could expand their 7:22 · footprint. maybe not even to fire people 7:24 · but to add more like c talent and 7:26 · capability right there'd be demand for 7:27 · it if we were you know in a bubble we 7:30 · would not have the kind of surging 7:34 · interest in AI at every level small 7:36 · medium business uh commercial scale 7:38 · enterprise scale the consumer like all 7:41 · of us as individuals that's not the 7:43 · story we see and yet we are being asked 7:46 · to believe by the media simultaneously 7:49 · that AI is so big and scary it is 7:51 · automating jobs and also though that 7:53 · somehow we are magically in a bubble and 7:54 · it's all fake. It's it's not both 7:56 · people. It's not both. And in this case, 7:58 · it's not either one of them because we 8:00 · don't have the talent yet to build AI 8:03 · systems that fully automate roles and we 8:06 · like not for a while. Like it's not 8:08 · there. And yet corporations love that 8:10 · narrative because it makes them future 8:12 · focused. It makes Wall Street happy 8:13 · because Wall Street doesn't know what AI 8:15 · is. And everybody like goes away happy 8:17 · with the story. And nobody pays 8:19 · attention to the contradictions here. 8:20 · The the answer is very simple. They just 8:22 · need to buy GPUs because corporations 8:25 · need to buy cloud compute. And that is 8:26 · what happened. And none of that makes 8:28 · getting fired easier. I don't want to 8:30 · sort of pretend that being able to 8:31 · explain it makes it better. It it sucks 8:33 · to be fired. I've been fired before. It 8:35 · just it's terrible. And so for those of 8:38 · you who have unwillingly left Amazon, 8:40 · there are Amazon alumni. We're out here. 8:43 · We look out for each other. We're doing 8:44 · our best. And you will find a spot. And 8:46 · I know that none of this makes it 8:48 · better. But I do hope that we actually 8:50 · can tell the truth about what is going 8:51 · on instead of getting fooled by stories 8:54 · that are not even not even coherent, 8:56 · right? Like you can't have both an AI 8:59 · bubble and AI automating all jobs. It 9:01 · does not work. And yet that is the story 9:02 · we're being sold. So there you go. 9:04 · That's the truth. That's why it matters. 9:06 · And that's why we need to pay attention 9:07 · when people make layoff announcements 9:08 · like that. Good luck. Don't conf.
cue the theme to "Good Times".
I’ve started watching reruns of Archie Bunker’s Place on Roku.
Watched Good Times way too much.
Very informative but you need to back away from the camera.
I read the text instead of listening.
Interesting. A good find.
A few years at Amazon does not translate to the level of expertise this person professes.
In my humble opinion.
I do that all the time. Hate videos. My kids can't understand it. Is this an "old guy" thing?
“I read the text instead of listening.”
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I willing confess the text appearing confused and stressed me for a bit.
As time went on, reading the text became preferred.
:)
Just glad he didn’t have excess nose hair. 👃
Yup.
IMHO, AI is just the sales pitch for Search 2.0. Why the excitement? Google’s $200b annual search revenue is up for grabs. This is why Google is providing free AI. It’s that, or lose big chunks of that $200b to competitors. But it’s more than Search 2.0. By stealing web content, AIs are also stealing ad revenues from the websites they rip off. So it’s Google’s $200b plus whatever else other websites are getting in ad revenues. This is a race for every single dollar of ad revenue on the internet.
AI-generated content is all over the place, including Google’s YouTube, Spotify, etc.
Thanks, I’m experiencing text success!
Efficient:
Reading is multiple X faster than speach.
The only way to cure H1B visa abuse is to abolish that whole visa class.
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