Posted on 11/04/2025 9:35:54 AM PST by RandFan
Charlie Kirk, the conservative influencer who was assassinated in September, and Nick Fuentes, the young Hitler-loving white nationalist at the center of a growing schism on the right, were bitter enemies.
Fuentes despised Kirk for his support of Israel, and, more broadly, for his efforts to marginalize Fuentes’s gleefully racist and fascist brand of politics. In 2019, seeking to expose Kirk as “anti-white” and a “fake patriot,” Fuentes organized his army of young fans — known as Groypers, after a variant on the alt-right Pepe the Frog meme — to flood events held by Kirk’s organization, Turning Point, and ask hostile questions. At one, they drove Donald Trump Jr. off the stage.
After Kirk was murdered, Fuentes, perhaps fearing he’d be blamed, disavowed violence. But he continued his attacks on Turning Point and accused Kirk’s widow, Erika, of being happy her husband was dead. “I am getting this vibe from her that she’s very fake,” he said.
Even as Fuentes defamed Kirk’s widow, powerful conservatives were engaged in a nationwide campaign to canonize Kirk and destroy progressives who maligned him.
Guest-hosting Kirk’s podcast, JD Vance urged listeners to report anyone celebrating Kirk’s death to their employers. In such an atmosphere, one might think that Fuentes’s stock on the right would have fallen. Instead, it’s risen higher than ever, revealing a seemingly unstoppable ratchet of radicalization on the right.
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Every F-bomb lowers their IQ 25 points.
It's a sign of a poor vocabulary. Thousand of adjectives to choose from and they just latch on to that. Lazy.
Well, also he has extended fantasies about raping men and then marrying them but your problem with him is that he is a bit "grating?"
You are 100% correct.
They are all fabrications of the Left to destroy Trump and his supporters.
Already I’m hearing stories from reliable conservatives of “stories” that Charlie was anti Israel.
When you track the stories, they ALL go back to Fuentes and Tucker’s promoting him.
I don’t even like Fuentes, at all. That said I like smear merchants and cancel culture even less. I think most Americans feel the same - cuz AMERICA.
The mad rush to cancel and defame him is having the exact opposite effect. Same dynamic with Carlson. Neos on the right, along with the revolutionaries on the left, tried to end him and ruin his life - now he’s bigger and more influetial than ever. Tucker should should send out some thank you gift-baskets.
Neocons and their associated rattlers will try to destroy anyone who speaks out of turn - but are now, deservedly, only heaping that poison onto their own heads.
They’re worthy of every bit of contempt.They earned when they fk’d with people’s lives.
Charlie was never “anti Israel”.
That said—he was getting a lot of pressure from his grass roots folks to be less pro Israel.
He was also getting pressure from donors to “hold the line” on the issue.
Charlie spoke out on several occasions—including in public— that he did not appreciate the pressure from his donors—and that he wanted a “big tent” that included folks who had differing views on Israel.
Next thing you know, The NYT and its merry band of nitwits will anoint Bad Bunny as the official musical act of MAGA.
” His reward was he got assassinated.....”The message young conservatives got was that being “reasonable” and “non-controversial” had zero benefit.....”The left is going to hate you and call you names and try to kill you anyway.”
Wrong as wrong can be.
Kirk was not assassinated because he was not controversial.
He was assassinated because he was effective - his approach was working and getting tangible results.
There is no lesson to conservatives to “go ahead and be controversial”. There is no lessons from Kirk’s death for conservatives to take positions like Nick Fuentes.
Kirk’s death did not end his mission. He has been rewarded by his movement becoming larger, and by more people being just like Kirk, not like Fuentes.
“Kirk’s death did not end his mission. He has been rewarded by his movement becoming larger, and by more people being just like Kirk, not like Fuentes.”
I am not sure whether you making a statement you are claiming to be a fact—or making a future prediction.
It is the first please feel free to provide data to support the claim.
Anything but. Fuentes is a godless leftist homosexual.
He’s a midget bomb throwing commie. Never heard of him before this week.
Lovely guy...so much to be admired...along with things like this:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4350500/replies?c=81
And this:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4350500/posts?page=71#71
And this:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4350500/posts?q=1&;page=1#17
I have never heard a single word spoken, nor read a word written by Nick Fuentes.
But I know 95% of the people on the Left who despised Charlie Kirk had never never heard a single word spoken, nor read a word written by Charlie Kirk except cut deliberately out of context.
I am going to take nobody’s word that Nick Fuentes is “bad”. I am going to find out for myself.
Start with post 52 above and go from there.
“I am not sure whether you making a statement you are claiming to be a fact—or making a future prediction....”It is the first please feel free to provide data to support the claim.”
Thanks. I will not read comments from others on him. I will read and listen to his raw material in full, and in context.
Here is the Fuentes rumble page:
https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes/videos
The Carlson interview and Fuentes comments after the interview are a good place to start.
I do not agree with every single word that Fuentes said—but he is hardly the monster that is portrayed on many threads here.
Thanks-I will bookmark them to look at.
Many liberal Christians believe Kirk = Fuentes.
Yes - you’ll soon find all of that is correct...and much more.
And be careful not to confuse him with Nick Freitas - completely different person.
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