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Wall Street legend Gary Shilling warns 'tremendous speculation' is setting up stocks to tumble 30%
Business Insider ^ | October 22, 2025 | The Ron Mohamed

Posted on 11/03/2025 10:26:07 AM PST by Whatever Works

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Lots in the news today from many "experts" about an economic reckoning coming soon.
1 posted on 11/03/2025 10:26:07 AM PST by Whatever Works
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To: Whatever Works

Corrections always happen. Nothing to see here.


2 posted on 11/03/2025 10:31:04 AM PST by ChuckHam
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To: Whatever Works

Correction: when hope meets up with reality


3 posted on 11/03/2025 10:31:16 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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My stock broker told me their economists were expecting a stock market correction for this last summer. It never came.


4 posted on 11/03/2025 10:33:27 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: Whatever Works

As was noted elsewhere, a correction is bound to happen sooner or later.

On the other hand, I’m reminded of this saying: Economists have predicted 5 of the last 2 recessions.


5 posted on 11/03/2025 10:35:06 AM PST by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: Whatever Works

These guys can’t comprehend the scale of the economic expansion starting next year as 2-3 trillion dollars of capital investments come into the economy. To understand those numbers —capital investments in the USA this year are going to come into around 300 billion dollars.


6 posted on 11/03/2025 10:35:42 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Whatever Works

The AI shell game will not end well. Amazon and Apple are in the best shape to endure it.


7 posted on 11/03/2025 10:36:32 AM PST by montag813
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Isn’t the FED restarting QE in less than a month? Asset prices should keep steadily grinding up if that’s the case.


8 posted on 11/03/2025 10:36:43 AM PST by bak3r
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These guys can’t comprehend the scale of the economic expansion starting next year as 2-3 trillion dollars of capital investments come into the economy.

Agree

9 posted on 11/03/2025 10:37:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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One is coming, there always one coming... the question is just when and how big of one...


10 posted on 11/03/2025 10:38:57 AM PST by HamiltonJay ( )
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To: Whatever Works

I’m with Gary. Shades of the dot.com bubble. Irrational exuberance.


11 posted on 11/03/2025 10:45:21 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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We had a 15% correction in May. How much of a correction do we need?


12 posted on 11/03/2025 10:45:31 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...x)
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To: Whatever Works

As long as the stock market has a huge tailwind from monthly 401K contributions flowing into the S&P 500, nothing will change.


13 posted on 11/03/2025 10:52:57 AM PST by proxy_user
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Well, you are another one of the few who thinks the same as I do.

Amazon may utilize it effectively and Apple appears to be steering somewhat clear of it sticking to their knitting and homegrown chips.

I will be happy when Trump gets at least some of his tariff wars out of his system and moves on to some other play thing but by then the damage of inflated prices will have stuck.


14 posted on 11/03/2025 10:53:45 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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“Lots in the news today from many “experts” about an economic reckoning coming soon.”


That’s because that is what they want. If enough “experts” get aboard with the narrative, the reckoning will be self-fulling as people panic.

One thing that has been continually increasing is the stock market. That irritates the never-Trumpers and the left because they want to be able to say “The stock market is crashing...orangemanbad!” and thus far they haven’t been able to do that. The handful of “down” days have been few and far between and then the markets return to setting new records.


15 posted on 11/03/2025 10:53:55 AM PST by CFW
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“S&P 500 could sink 30%”

He is correct, it could sink 30%

We know this because it has sunk 30% or more many time in the past.


16 posted on 11/03/2025 10:59:27 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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I agree, the past year or so has been among the most productive (eg; bullish) I have ever seen in 20+ years. Concentered, of course, in the tech darlings. There are some stocks that market can not handle not owning.

But I’d also imagine that hanging on to certain stocks, perhaps with some judicial trimming, through such a drawdown will outperform trying to beat the crowd out the door and then trying to re-enter.

When COVID hit, my wealthy friend to whom I often give stock advice loaded up on SPY, the SP500 etf, at 305. Today it’s 684.

I found him Palantir at 18. Now 200.


17 posted on 11/03/2025 11:02:33 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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The smart money has been getting out of equities for a while and into gold, silver, land, and similar investments.


18 posted on 11/03/2025 11:22:09 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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Tremendous speculation

Sounds a lot like TDS it’s not the first time and won’t be the last speculation at best is a dice roll.


19 posted on 11/03/2025 11:22:43 AM PST by Vaduz
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“Corrections always happen. Nothing to see here.”

True and we’ve always ridden them out. But, now in our mid 70s, our perspective has changed. We’ve been thinking about taking advantage of the heady market to do some remodel work, but maybe we don’t want to do that and conserve cash. Always a conundrum.


20 posted on 11/03/2025 11:27:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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