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1 posted on 10/25/2025 3:25:43 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

We know what happens in a Burger King Bathroom, but I am unsure about McDonalds.


2 posted on 10/25/2025 3:28:29 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Morgana

From what I saw, the cops killed that guy. Of course, there was a gap in the video (how convenient) so we didn’t see the actual body blows.


8 posted on 10/25/2025 4:22:18 PM PDT by CFW
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To: Morgana

Not all cops are like this one idiot.
However, it is like unless, this one
gets his due all Cops are suspect.
Stupidly, Cops won’t deal with it.
I was in the military and I would
have testified against a person
that violated the UCMJ.

Cops won’t testify against each other.
They are so hated and they know it,
they fear the response from the
people they “serve”.

Why do you think the military is
respected and local cops aren’t?
Military has a strict uniform set of rules.
Local cops do as they darn well please.
That is why we Hate them.


10 posted on 10/25/2025 4:32:50 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: Morgana

He dyed? What color?


13 posted on 10/25/2025 4:43:54 PM PDT by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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To: Morgana

It’s hard to sympathetic with the dead guy: cops are cops. If you cooperate there is fairly good chance you’ll survive to sue them later. This guy is either catastrophically dumb or mentally deficient or on drugs or all of above.

In my younger days I got stopped and harassed by LA cops a lot - sometimes 2-3 times a week. Apparently hardened criminals rode yellow Honda 90s. I made to 80 by not mouthing off at all.


14 posted on 10/25/2025 4:45:10 PM PDT by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Morgana

Perhaps he ate something from the McDonald’s menu.


17 posted on 10/25/2025 5:05:34 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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No luck getting rid of his Whopper.


19 posted on 10/25/2025 5:40:18 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Burma Shave)
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To: Morgana

Ah! The manager was Esmerelda's Brother!

22 posted on 10/25/2025 5:54:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Morgana

My money is that the guy was on the autism spectrum. And the cops didn’t understand it and they gave him a hard time and beat him up.


24 posted on 10/25/2025 6:20:08 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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The guy is clearly autistic. My son is autistic. This is clearly outrageous. Murder. I’m livid. And all you Freepers out there joking around about it are absolutely sick!🤬🤬🤬🤬


25 posted on 10/25/2025 6:24:36 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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Had a job for a couple of years where I dealt with mentally disabled adults. One never knows what to expect, especially since most of those folks are state wards who are guinea pigs for the state medical people who are always anxious to try new “remedies” on some poor bastid who doesn’t know his own name half the time.

Before people start piling on the cops, put yourself in their shoes where you’ve no idea whether somebody is high on PCP or meth or acid or all of the above or what. Most cops don’t get the training to deal with mentally disabled folks. Plus, when folks are hopped up on drugs, alcohol, or everything they could get into their bodies, you have no idea WTF is gonna come out of the other end of that ‘arrest and detain’ pipeline.

Definitely, those cops needed more training, especially in physical restraining techniques. But, more than that, they needed more training in analyzing the situation. Now they have to live with the fact that they killed a guy for no good cause.


27 posted on 10/25/2025 6:45:15 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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I went to use a Wendy’s bathroom once, waited like 15 minutes and still locked. So I asked one of the workers who told me there was a homeless person living in there.


30 posted on 10/25/2025 8:08:26 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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The victim had diminished capacity either through drugs or alcohol and or he was mentally retarded or a combination of all three. He was not confrontational and was not up in the police officers faces. On the contrary he avoided looking at them. Anyone who saw his moments and or looked in to his eyes could see that.

The police were the only ones throwing punches, the only one's using force.

All it would have taken was for one of the officers to step in and DE-escalate and that man would still be alive.

I am normally on the side of Law enforcement but garbage like this makes it hard to stay there.

All the officers there should be subject to disciplinary actions. The ones who beat the victim need to be charged with negligent homicide, miss use of power under the color of authority, battery and assault. The DOJ should look in civil rights violations.

Riverside Police department has been under DOJ supervision in the past for things of this type. Their body cameras were mandated by federal court and the system should show all the video as it was made to be almost impossible for just one person to blank or erase footage.

31 posted on 10/25/2025 8:12:09 PM PDT by BFW
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This was a total screw up on the part of the LEOs. Anyone with any common sense could have gotten a good read on this young man. Once face to face, you can tell that there’s something not right about him... That doesn’t mean that you have to diagnose the cause - you just have to recognize the symptoms. If you feel threatened by the subject, you call for backup in numbers large enough that you don’t have to beat a subject into submission... (You get enough officers for every limb to be constrained, with extras to move limbs into position for hand cuffing. It’s not complicated,
and can even be done without taking the subject to the ground.) That means two officers weren’t going to be enough, and the LEOs should have known that. There’s nothing wrong with standing there talking to the subject until you have the numbers to effect a non-violent arrest. Now, a young man is dead and they are having to explain themselves. The truth is that there is no excuse... but we’ll see what comes from the investigation.

I taught use-of-force law enforcement classes for almost 2 decades... The biggest problem I see in today’s law enforcement is this: 1) We have too many officers passing the psychological evaluation that shouldn’t be. I’ve actually sent some home due to statements made on the firing range, and informed their training officers as to why I did so. 2) We have too many officers that, put bluntly, are cowards. They panic under stress, and go from 0-100 (use their service weapon) when they should have been able to de-escalate a situation. The ones about which I am speaking are usually the ones that never, ever got in a real fight in their life (even in the academy, they knew training was still controlled, and thus didn’t panic) so when the first real one occurs, they end up using more force than should have been required had they done the right thing. 3.) There is one school of thought that has officers go in and try to verbally take command of the situation without proper assessment - that quiet often is a sure fire way to escalate an already bad situation. Then it all goes to hell. That is another contributing factor to this young man’s death. The LEO was threatening arrest before he ever laid eyes on this young man. Do you think that made the young man feel he could ask the officer for help? Absolutely not. 4.) Notice the first officer is in long sleeves and is of average build. Nothing wrong with that. The second officer, in short sleeves, wants everyone to see his muscles... He is a gym rat, and may or may not be using supplements to enhance his muscle growth. The problem comes in where he has to face a smaller opponent. Where and how does he measure the amount of force he uses... He has been taught at the academy that he must win the fight (that in this case should have never happened), so is he allowed to beat a man to death just to get him cuffed? What happened to the less-than-lethal alternatives of pepper spray or the taser? They could have used either and would have quiet possibly saved the man a beating. But no, they resorted to beating him into submission.

The whole incident makes me sick. There is a reason I retired from teaching those classes... I got tired of hearing academy graduates say “You have to get them before they get you!” But when a police officer candidate has been told for weeks on end that “You’re a hammer, you’re a hammer, you’re a hammer!”, and they’re never given instructions on how to determine who the nail might be, then everyone looks like a nail. Common sense and treating people with respect has been missing from law enforcement for several years now. When my own father retired from law enforcement in 1988, he stated that he’d never been so happy to be out of a job in his life (he did wear a badge for 37 years, with three different agencies - he saw the changes coming.) When I asked why, he stated that the youngsters were more intent on adrenaline highs and riding “rough shod” over people than they were on trying to help the good citizens and standing for right and honor. It took me a few years longer, but I starting seeing his points and stopped LEO work all together.


36 posted on 10/25/2025 10:18:38 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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Man dies in custody after locking himself in McDonald’s bathroom in Riverside
by: Lily Dallow

Posted: Jun 23, 2025 / 08:46 PM PDT

Updated: Jun 23, 2025 / 08:46 PM PDT

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A man died in custody after he locked himself in a McDonald’s restroom in Riverside, officials announced Monday.

On Friday, officers with the Riverside Police Department responded to a 6:38 a.m. call from McDonald’s employees, saying that a man had just locked himself inside the bathroom and was not responding.

Police arrived at the McDonald’s on the 7400 block of Indiana Avenue and “had the man exit the restroom,” according to the department’s release.

“The man became combative and force was used to detain him,” police stated. “Medical aid responded, and while being treated by paramedics, he remained combative before going into medical distress.”

First responders transported the man to a local hospital, where police said he was treated for over an hour, but, despite the medical staff’s efforts, the man later died.

“This investigation is ongoing and no further details are available at this time,” wrote the department.

Anyone with additional information is urged to contact Riverside County Sheriff’s Department Investigator Victor Magana at 951-955-2777 or VMagana@RiversideSheriff.org.


38 posted on 10/26/2025 2:04:29 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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