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To: yesthatjallen

The current lowest resolution for transistor size is 2 nanometers. Commercial chips run about 3 nanometers. It seems the lowest resolution the Chinese can do is 7 nanometers.

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2 posted on 10/22/2025 10:59:39 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Although these poor bastards are probably destined to be organ donors, I give them credit for trying. Farting in the same room with them installed would probably put those machines out of commission for three months. Semiconductor manufacturing id that delicate.


3 posted on 10/22/2025 11:07:51 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Actually China is having problems smaller than 14nm.
They can build them but they don’t operate at full speed and yield is very poor.
Without EUV lithography, 7nm and smaller is virtually impossible.
Both Intel and Global Foundry discovered this.
Intel pushed very late into EUV and GF abandoned anything smaller than 14nm.

ASML is the only way to make EUV work and it took them 25 years to make it work.


6 posted on 10/22/2025 11:40:24 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Celtic Conservative

I read recently that terms like “3 nm”, “7 nm” etc. are more *marketing* terms than actual dimensions. State-of-the-art semiconductors for CPUs/GPUs/NPUs are so complicated in structure (FinFET, RibbonFET, GAAFET, MBCFET etc.) that there are many dimensions involved, almost none of which are actually that small.

Excerpt (from “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process“):

“The term “3 nanometer” has no direct relation to any actual physical feature (such as gate length, metal pitch or gate pitch) of the transistors. According to the projections contained in the 2021 update of the International Roadmap for Devices and Systems published by IEEE Standards Association Industry Connection, a 3 nm node is expected to have a contacted gate pitch of 48 nanometers, and a tightest metal pitch of 24 nanometers.[12]

“However, in real world commercial practice, 3 nm is used primarily as a marketing term by individual microchip manufacturers (foundries) to refer to a new, improved generation of silicon semiconductor chips in terms of increased transistor density (i.e. a higher degree of miniaturization), increased speed and reduced power consumption.[13][14] There is no industry-wide agreement among different manufacturers about what numbers would define a 3 nm node.[1]


9 posted on 10/22/2025 5:10:04 PM PDT by powerset
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