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This Is Not the Time to Give Tomahawks to Ukraine
American Greatness ^ | October 17, 2025 | Fred Fleitz

Posted on 10/17/2025 1:20:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 10/17/2025 1:20:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In two weeks it will be.

Putin ain’t going anywhere. He needs to be “motivated.”

Trump needs to actually put some pressure on the guy. Threats don’t work with Putin.


2 posted on 10/17/2025 1:21:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
In two weeks it will be. Putin ain’t going anywhere. He needs to be “motivated.” Trump needs to actually put some pressure on the guy. Threats don’t work with Putin.

Won't it be wonderful when we finally get the world war you are salivating for?

3 posted on 10/17/2025 1:23:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The last thing I heard Trump say anything regarding Tomahawks he said we needed more for OUR OWN DEFENSE. The implications for that is that he will be giving the Ukes fewer Tomahawks than they want or perhaps none at all. IMHO, anyhow.


4 posted on 10/17/2025 1:27:10 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

From day one, when Tomahawks first came up, I immediately saw it as a ploy by Trump. And I don’t think it is a mistake by Trump to float that balloon. He should use every inch of leverage that he can. It is how he has functioned his entire business career in negotiations.

I don’t think he has any intention whatsoever of allowing Tomahawks to end up in Ukraine’s hands. I don’t think he has ever had any intention of doing so.

There is a lot of hyperventilating about it. I think that is what he wants.

Could I be wrong? Sure. But I don’t see it happening, ever.


5 posted on 10/17/2025 1:27:42 PM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Providing Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine might be dangerously escalatory insanity.
6 posted on 10/17/2025 1:30:45 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There would never be a time to send Tomahawks or long-range missiles to Ukraine.

That push us closer to WW III and nuclear war and would be as bad anything Biden did.

7 posted on 10/17/2025 1:30:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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You're a dangerous moron that is threat to the national security of American.

Escalating a war with one of world's nuclear power would be idiotic.

Trump campaigned on moving us away from WW III and nuclear war.

If we sent Tomahawks to Ukraine, Russia would do what is necessary to end the war. That would be something horrific, like disabling the entire electric grid in Ukraine and flooding Europe with refugees.

8 posted on 10/17/2025 1:34:37 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
But...but...I was most exuberantly informed that Ukraine had the ability to build their own fabulous cruise missile called the Flamingo.

What need have they of our missiles...except to drag us further into the conflict.

JMO, YMMV

9 posted on 10/17/2025 1:46:55 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are just wearing the Russians down. This is modern warfare fought with drones and wit. Russia is still fighting the last war. They may take Ukraine, but they may lose their society as it was.
No need to invade Russia. Just make Putin use so much of his young manpower that his society can’t function as it did.
Big country lots of resources. All that will be left is old hungry people and bombs.
Easy pickings for the Chinese. Who by the way probably want the land that Russia stole from them, BACK!
That where all the OIL is.


10 posted on 10/17/2025 1:54:41 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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You're a dangerous moron that is threat to the national security of American.

So, as a Putin Fanbois, who don't you support Vermont Lt?

If we sent Tomahawks to Ukraine, Russia would do what is necessary to end the war

Are you still peddling the pathetic lie that 'Putin is fighting with one hand behind his back' just because he is a great guy? Still????

11 posted on 10/17/2025 1:55:40 PM PDT by Pilsner
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Neocons and Zeepers Love War and Bloodshed, as long as it NOT THEIR
BLOOD or THEIR Families Blood Being Shed.
MOST Would not offer up their sons or grandsons to fight a War against Russia,
for what? YouCrayne?
Foolish Zeepers.


12 posted on 10/17/2025 2:04:29 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ya, but it’s a damn good time to use the threat in negotiations w Putin!


13 posted on 10/17/2025 2:07:37 PM PDT by G Larry (Its RACIST to impose slave wages on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing cheap ILLEGAL labor)
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To: Vermont Lt

Exactly. Putin needs to witness payback.


14 posted on 10/17/2025 2:08:25 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Putin has had three years to get it done. He can’t. It’s time for him to stop.

You’ve killed enough people with your special operation.


15 posted on 10/17/2025 2:08:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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And you are a Russian retard who cannot get it done. At home, or in Ukraine. A global failure.

See, we can both call names.


16 posted on 10/17/2025 2:09:54 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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If Ukraine had them right this minute, it would probably take six months to design and fabricate launch platforms. Probably a good deal longer. Tomahawks are designed for vertical or tube launch. Having been involved in similar types of designs, I’d estimate it would take a pretty good and available industrial base to design, fabricate and test a vehicle. And although Ukraine has the infrastructure, that infrastructure is probably 100% in use now. They don’t have the depth of bench to detail designers, machinists and material to this effort without seriously impacting something else that is critical. My take...bluff.

If it weren’t a bluff. If the intent was real, then the West would offer to take Ukraine’s Flamingo design and build subcomponents and then ship them in. The fact that Ukraine has a tested and working design but aren’t using the heck out of the Flamingo says they either can’t build them or they’re stockpiling them. With the shellacking their civilians are taking I’d guess they aren’t stockpiling.


17 posted on 10/17/2025 2:10:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Has anyone seen my tagline? ...I know it was here...)
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To: tennmountainman

Ukrainians are more than willing to die to kill more Russians.

I am not sure what your point it.

You should go back to your handler and find out what the proper English terms are for your point.

I’ll wait.


18 posted on 10/17/2025 2:11:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: philman_36

It would drag us further in. Would have to be current or former US operators using our Satellites for targeting. That is an act of war!


19 posted on 10/17/2025 2:13:47 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! Tyllllllllll)
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To: tennmountainman

Putin can take his savages home.


20 posted on 10/17/2025 2:24:06 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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