Posted on 10/14/2025 6:47:10 AM PDT by Red Badger
Uranus is two billion miles from the sun. If it had a large body of water, seems it would be an ice cap, not an ocean.
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Two words: Fusion fuel.
Water ice and liquid this far out in the solar system is original solar system formation water from the super nova that forged all the heavy elements which means it’s loaded with deuterium.
Deuterium is the base of a host of fusion cycles if you have plasma at temps for deuterium + deuterium fusion you have plasma for all the fusion reactions of its fusion products. You need 300 million C for D + D. By the time humans are mining a ice giant moon we will have the tech for 300 million K.
Deuterium(D) + deuterium(D) =
50% neutron + helium3(H3)
50% proton(hydrogen) + tritium(T)
Then the products can fuse too.
D + T = neutron + helium4
D + H3 = proton + helium4
H3 + H3 = proton + proton + helium4
Ultimately you end up with protonium and stable helium 4
The moon has helium3 in the top 2 meters of the regolith holds a million tonnes.
One kg of deuterium from earth’s ocean plus one kg of helium 3 from the moon plus 100 million K = 190,000 gigawatt hours of energy. He3+D is 1/3 the temp of D+D fusion and we have have achieved 100 million K.
This is the way...ion accelerators not magnetic bottles. Humans have accelerated gold and lead to 7 trillion degrees K the path to 300 million K is exactly what this company is doing they plan on D + He3 first or D+T.
https://www.helionenergy.com/technology/
Here in the USA a company achieved 217 million C for 24 hours if true. Then that’s also 217000273K... China and Korea both exceeded 100 million C. The Chinese just held for more than 1000 seconds above 100 million K.
[Helium-4 fusion requires a temperature of approximately 100 million Kelvin to overcome the positive charges of the helium nuclei and initiate the triple-alpha process. At this temperature, three helium-4 nuclei fuse, with two first forming an unstable beryllium-8 nucleus, which then fuses with a third helium-4 nucleus to create a stable carbon-12 nucleus, releasing energy. ]
He4+He4 = beryllium8
Beryllium8+He = Carbon12
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-firm-sets-record-plasma-213547664.html
This is as far as humans likely will ever get. Carbon is the end of the line for fusion without massive gravity wells or artificial gravity if humans ever master gravitons.
“Uranus is two billion miles from the sun. If it had a large body of water, seems it would be an ice cap, not an ocean.”
Same as Jupiter’s moons Europa and Ganymede the surface is ice crust miles thick. Tidal heating flexes the moons interiors and friction keeps the deep oceans liquid under intense pressures. You would have to melt down miles likely 20+ to reach liquid water. For humans we just need the solid ice it’s water ice [ hydrogen(protonium,deuterium),oxygen + salts] and CO2 ices every one of those elements is needed for human life these are mining stops. Hydrogen is also fuel for ion engines and fusion engines too.
A moon of Uranus
Redundant
Uranus has 29 moons. Make of that what you will, I’m only here for the comments anyway.
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Too much Taco Bell can cause an ocean like slurry.
There are five “major moons” that were discovered by telescope before the space travel era. Titania and Oberon were also discovered by Herschel (who first spotted the planet Uranus in 1781) in 1787; Ariel and Umbriel were discovered by Lassell in 1851, and darker and smaller Miranda not seen until 1948 by Kuiper), and of those, Ariel is second closest to the planet, with an orbital period of 2.52 days. Only Miranda is smaller than Ariel, and also only Miranda is closer to the planet. Umbriel is almost the same size and both Titania and Oberon are around one third larger in diameter. The orbital order of the moons is Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania and Oberon, whose orbital period is almost fourteen days.
In 1985 during the first Voyager fly-by, an intermediate sized moon, Puck, was discovered in an orbit closer to the planet than Miranda, and by 1999, 23 other smaller satellites, some of which are apparently ring shepherds, and also a few small satellites further out than the five major moons, were detected.
It is a mental nightmare trying to visualize the system, Uranus rotates every 17 hours 14 minutes in a retrograde direction (relative to its north pole, it goes in the opposite direction to most other planets) but the planet is also spinning on its side relative to its orbit. The major moons and most of the smaller ones orbit in a prograde direction like all major satellites in the solar system except for Neptune’s Triton.
If you were on the earth’s moon looking at the earth at full moon, you would see mainly the darkened night side of earth and any light from thunderstorms or urban areas on earth would appear to be moving left to right, but if you could be an observer on the surface of Ariel, and there were any distinct features on the cloud tops of Uranus, those would appear to be moving (quite rapidly) right to left. If you were on closer moon Puck its orbital period (0.76 days) is almost the same as the rotational speed of the planet (0.72 days) but in the opposite direction, so every 17 to 18 hours you would see the same portion of the planet spinning below quite rapidly from right to left, any visible features would take six to nine hours to rotate all the way across its disk as seen from that perspective.
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