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What counts as “processed” deli meats?
My German and Czech ancestors seemed to thrive in things like sausage, ham and salami
They wouldn’t make as much if people were healthier
About 15 months ago I had open heart surgery, the very first meal they brought me the morning after surgery included fully caffeinated coffee, which was surprising to me.
This article just ruined my day. My pantry is full of this stuff.
I don’t think the medical system is very smart about food, nutrition and health. The Food Pyramid most of us grew up with is proof of that. It’s a large part of why RFK’s MAHA efforts are a thing.
“My pantry is full of this stuff.”
I can’t imagine any normal person having “plant based ‘meats’” in their pantry.
Yeah, they’d count ham, salami and sausage as “processed.” My understanding that “processed” is meat that is subject to any sort of preservation or curing process. Non-processed meat is just plain ol’ butchered meat without any curing or smoking.
The only thing on the list I very occasional consume is Campbell Chicken soup #8.
CNBC and MSN?
BARF!
Lies and Propaganda KILL.
Guilty of #2 on occasion, love me a Italian sub sandwich.
Guilty of #8 probably three times a week. I’m on a Progresso Soup kick as of late, but keep it to half a can, save the rest for another day. Even then it’s about 30% of RDA of sodium.
My surgery was on Friday morning 7am, per the nurses instructions, I had not eaten since dinner on Thursday, I had nothing on Friday except some water Friday evening, when they brought be breakfast on Saturday morning, I was hungry and looking forward to maybe some scrambled eggs, toast, etc., I was brought beef broth, jello, coffee and some OJ, nothing solid, when I asked they said the reason was in case I had to be rushed back into surgery, they wanted nothing in my stomach, I didn’t get really solid food until 4-5 days after surgery.
Re Deli Meats, I’ve never understood people’s love of, or for, charcuterie boards.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
I don’t think caffeine in moderation is bad.
There are groups in the US that attempt to pound this caffeine is unhealthy narrative, but it’s garbage.
Same with booze in moderation.
Heck, as my grandmother was dying from CHF the doctor more or less told us (off line) that a glass of champagne in the morning (like a Mimosa) will help her.
There are a lot of things where certain groups, that because of their “belief” cultural or religious push certain things which aren’t really proven or science based: pork (Jews and Muslims), shellfish (Jews), caffeine (Mormons), meat et al. (All these vegetarian types), alcohol (Muslims, 7-day, some Baptists)...
Many of these groups pretend as if their self imposed dietary restrictions are somehow healthy, environmental, ethical (the animal cruelty angle) and there is a science backing it up according to them.
Often this spills over into the mainstream, as Kosher did years past, or they try to push it as a lot of the vegetarian nonsense until just recently, with even the WHO getting behind it (they pushed a health and climate change argument).
Regards climate change and cattle. My second wife comes from a family of ranchers. They have 200 cows among other animals. I learned a lot from them regards all this sustainable and climate argument. It’s 100% Bullshit.
Do you think they put the cows on ground where you could be raising crops and making money? Nope.
Guess what cows do as they walk around and crap a massive amount BTW, on soil that isn’t all that ideal for growing things? Guess what cow poop is good at doing?
The arguments they feed people appeal to ignorance but once you start looking into it, it’s not at all like they claim.
Enjoy your pink tender steak.
It’s not bad for you in moderation, it doesn’t reduce the crop production nor does it produce a lot of CO2, bla bla bla. They “create the science” to justify what is a forgone conclusion based on some philosophy they embrace.
Very guilty of #2 and bread. Nothing like the melting of a fresh slice of mortadella on your tongue.
And a Jersey sub? Just day-um.
But I do limit it to once a month or longer...
Everything else on the list is occasional [like once a year or so] or not at all.
How about just salt and pepper and drying?
As in beef jerky, a major daily staple. I’m assuming “processed “ means nitrates.
Flavored Coffee Creamers???
OK, I draw the line there ;-)
While I DO drink my half-caff (sigh) black at deer camp or while on a road trip, at home, in the mornings having coffee with The Queen, it SHALL be coffee WITH Italian Cream.
I’d have to read the article to understand what’s wrong with coffee creamer. And that would be very un-FReeper of me.
The rest we already consume very little of since I am the cook/chef. I’m hoping the fabulous Publix multi-grain bread isn’t on this author’s banned list.
I agree with you about things being in moderation, the reason I brought up coffee is before my surgery I had to give up everything with caffein, coffee, soft drinks, tea, because it made me dizzy and my blood pressure would shoot up.
My open-heart surgery was to replace my aortic valve and repair an aneurysm in the ascending aorta. Given how caffein affects me, I thought the last they I would be served is something that could shoot up my blood pressure.
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