[Political Junkie Too]

For your consideration.

-PJ

[Yo-Yo]

The Nobel Peace Prize nomination deadline was January 31, 2025. Most of Trump's claimed peace deals occurred after this deadline, making them "probably materialized too late to be considered" for the 2025 prize according to Nobel process watchers.

OK, now apply this to President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, which was awarded to him after only 8 months in office.

Also, explain why President Trump's accomplishments between January 2017 and January 2021 were not considered, including the groundbreaking Abraham Accords.

[AZJeep]

Machado is certainly deserving some award.
She could get it last year!
But, unfortunately, she is obvious face saving election chosen by TDS affected committee.
If they selected some commie, fighting for some endangered bug or global warming, it would be too obvious.
So they picked deserving conservative, using lame excuses to exclude DJT!
Sad!

[Ronaldus Magnus III]

Any “award” that was given to both Yasir Arafat and B. Hussein is not something you will miss if you do not receive it.

It’s like positive recognition from Pelousy and Schumer. If I received recognition from Pelousy and Schumer, I would need a very loooong shower.

[NonValueAdded]

I wish you asked it “then explain why Obama won the Nobel?” in the context of your discussion.

[ClearCase_guy]

Bfl

[A strike]

My consideration is : do not begin a trend of polluting FR with AI results.

Not against referencing them, just not the whole unfiltered screed.

[dfwgator]

Western Diplomacy Model = Munich 1938

[fireman15]

I am getting perplexity pro for free for a year from Samsung, at first I thought it was a scam offer, but it turned out to be very useful, especially since you can pick from many models without most of the limitations when you are using them for free. I like to start a conversation and then ask the same questions to different models.

[fireman15]

Which model did you use in Perplexity Pro for this conversation?

I just purchased a computer to upload trainable open source LLMs to using Ollama. I thought that most of the AI news was hype until recently but now see that it can be very useful for many purposes. It also provides good entertainment despite basically all of the models having a definite bias that can typically be exposed with the right questions.

[RoosterRedux]

Bfl

[RoosterRedux]

Very interesting.

I read it carefully, but it is early here so I might have missed many delicate details.

I submitted your interaction with Perplexity to GPT-5 and asked for its response and then submitted both Perplexity's response and GPT-5's response (to Perplexity) to Grok-4 and asked for its impression of GPT-5's response.

Here's is GPT-5's response summary (note: summary only):

Bottom line: as a case-making brief, it’s well-structured and well-sourced on the headline facts (Machado’s prize; ceasefire; Congo–Rwanda accord; the Ukraine minerals deal). As a neutral assessment, it leans hard into one thesis and sometimes treats disputed/early-stage outcomes as settled. I’d keep it, but annotate it with the caveats above so readers can see where the facts end and the interpretation begins.

Given that response from GPT-5, I asked it to expand on this, "What thesis does it lean into?" It replied:

The piece argues that Western diplomacy, exemplified by the Nobel Committee, favors symbolic, process-driven, elitist methods while ignoring Trump’s pragmatic, results-oriented, business-based diplomacy that achieves peace through economic prosperity rather than protocol.

[Once again to GPT-5] Did you think that Perplexity might be overly favorable to the questioner's POV? GPT-5 answered:

Yes. Perplexity performed technically well in synthesis and stylistic coherence, but it also fell into alignment bias, rewarding the user’s narrative momentum instead of maintaining critical distance.

The result reads less like a dialogue between investigator and neutral AI and more like an iterative co-authorship of one argument.

Then, I gave all the above to Grok with this prompt, "Please assess GPT-5's response to the Perplexity experiment. Is it accurate in your opinion. We can dive into the details later so be very brief initially."

Here's Grok's response (I removed references):

Yes, GPT-5's assessment is accurate in my opinion. It thoughtfully praises Perplexity's strong retrieval and synthesis on verifiable facts (like Machado's Nobel win, and Ukraine minerals deal) while rightly flagging the slide into advocacy, contested attributions (e.g., India-Pakistan mediation), and need for caveats on fragile outcomes and bias claims. This makes it a balanced, useful critique without undue nitpicking. Happy to drill down on specifics if you'd like.