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Once and for all: Fascism is not right-wing
American Thinker ^ | 8 Oct, 2025 | Roberta Cole

Posted on 10/08/2025 1:04:56 PM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Bernard
I agree with most of your analysis, but have a slight quibble with this statement.

1. Who owns the means of production.

The Fascists effectively controlled the means of production by controlling corporate leadership through coercion and outright threats and intimidation. Corporations could be privately held, but only as long as they took direction from the Nazis. This would place the Nazis slightly to the right of the Communists, but from our free-market republic viewpoint, the Nazis were almost indistinguishable to us from the Communists.

61 posted on 10/08/2025 3:00:49 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America!)
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To: central_va
Wrong, global capitalism destroys the middle class which is the goal of Marxism.

Fine, I can agree that globalism + capitalism serves Marxists goal of defeating capitalism, but capitalism is the antithesis of Marxism.

62 posted on 10/08/2025 3:05:24 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America!)
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To: Pres Raygun

Capitalism needs STRONG borders. Without borders capitalism burns itself up and the world with it.


63 posted on 10/08/2025 3:09:13 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Pres Raygun

Maybe the equation should be:

Capitalism + Globalism => Marxist goals


64 posted on 10/08/2025 3:13:16 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

Giovanni Gentile was assassinated by a Communist. I suppose the assassin didn’t want Giovanni talking about socialism any more.


65 posted on 10/08/2025 3:14:41 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Not one? Death Of Stalin. A comedy of terrors


66 posted on 10/08/2025 3:19:02 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: central_va

Capitalism + Globalism => Marxist goals

Yes I can agree with that as well.


67 posted on 10/08/2025 3:37:03 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America!)
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To: MtnClimber

Guess I was ahead of the game.

probably 20 years ago I read Goebbels diary, he was the brains behind Hitler.

Anyway he clearly defined Nazism as “ a new kind of socialism”.


68 posted on 10/08/2025 3:45:20 PM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: SaxxonWoods

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69 posted on 10/08/2025 4:10:00 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: T.B. Yoits

They should have both. Hollywood is filled with golden calf Jews. Don’t give them cover by saying it’s most Jews. It’s that group.


70 posted on 10/08/2025 4:21:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAV mE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Jim Noble

They both prioritize the State over GOD and man.


71 posted on 10/08/2025 4:22:48 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAV mE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: MtnClimber

All of the “isms“ are collectivist in nature. Whether it is Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, Nazism, Fascism, or any other ideology that shares elements from two or more of these, they are all collectivist. I don’t care what uniform they wear, what flag they fly, or what particular phrases are there favorites, they all share one thing in common: the rights of the individual mean nothing. Oh, they will give lip service to individual rights, but in the end, the only thing that matters is what the people in charge want, and everyone else be damned. This can be something as simple as the right to seek employment, or it can mean imprisonment for almost anything, and it can mean being shot in the back of the head and buried in some forest somewhere. These ideologies, together, have buried over 100 million people in just the 20th century.

The only thing opposing them is the ideology of individualism. To some extent, the idea of a democracy, in which each person has a vote, comes close to this goal. However, in my opinion, the only form of government that actually achieves this goal is a constitutional republic, in which Even a solid majority of the voters where their representatives cannot take away certain basic rights from individuals, no matter what. The single country that best embodies the philosophy of individualism is the United States of America, which has stood as a beacon to the rest of humanity since it’s founding.


72 posted on 10/08/2025 5:53:58 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Jim Noble

Eh?

The Party in communism is indeed the hierarchy, with the “General Secretary” (dictator) at the top. Same side of the pole.


73 posted on 10/08/2025 6:43:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Bernard

That’s splitting hairs. Fascism is effectively taken from Lenin’s New Economic Policy.


74 posted on 10/08/2025 6:45:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Pres Raygun

That’s exactly why I used the word “owns” instead of “controls”. Sometimes my brevity leaves room for different conclusions.


75 posted on 10/08/2025 6:45:52 PM PDT by Bernard ("Nothing is as expensive as that which the government provides for free." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Heartlander

At the beginning of the USSR, there were anarchists that regarded themselves as communists. They were eventually crushed by the Bolshevik socialists.

The Founding Fathers did believe in law, namely God’s law.


76 posted on 10/08/2025 6:48:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease. …

— Mussolini, 1924

Fascism establishes the real equality of individuals before the nation… the object of the regime in the economic field is to ensure higher social justice for the whole of the Italian people… What does social justice mean? It means work guaranteed, fair wages, decent homes; it means the possibility of continuous evolution and improvement. Nor is this enough. It means that the workers must enter more and more intimately into the productive process and share its necessary discipline… As the past century was the century of capitalist power, the twentieth century is the century of power and glory of labor.

— Mussolini, 1935

When the war is over, in the world’s social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers. The Fascist revolution will make another decisive step to shorten social distances. …

— Mussolini, 1941
Indistinguishable from communism. 100 percent left wing.
77 posted on 10/08/2025 6:50:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Bernard

If you own but do not control, do you truly own?

The socialists say the same thing, that “socialist property” is “owned” by all the people, but obviously controlled by the tyrannical government forces.


78 posted on 10/08/2025 6:51:59 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MtnClimber

Bkmk


79 posted on 10/08/2025 6:55:54 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: MtnClimber

true. but the spectrums are absolute. they can call themselves anything, it is what they are that defines where on the scale they fall. just as the left lables us fascists, it doesn’t make us fascists.


80 posted on 10/08/2025 7:07:35 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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