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This is why he's voting against it, Freepers! Ironically, with the Dems who were for all this spending last year.

They are the hypocrites not Senator Paul.

1 posted on 10/04/2025 2:53:06 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

It’s only for 7 more WEEKS!


2 posted on 10/04/2025 2:54:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RandFan

Everybody knows you’re our only pure blood.
Now sit down, shut up, and vote for the damn thing.


4 posted on 10/04/2025 3:04:25 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: RandFan
One wonders, for Freepers, what is so difficult about "We need to stop the spending spree and get government under control."
5 posted on 10/04/2025 3:05:09 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: RandFan

Rand paul is the hypocrite His whole shtick is to use perfection, which is never achieved in real life then go on a moral / virtue signaling tirade.


8 posted on 10/04/2025 3:21:49 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: RandFan

Being the NON-Republican/conservative Liberaltarian he is.. he should be taken behind the barn and shot.

And, YOU need to find the proper website (Liberaltarian) to post your crap on, and stop wasting JimRob’s space.


10 posted on 10/04/2025 3:27:46 AM PDT by Bikkuri (We are all Charlie now. I am Charlie!)
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To: RandFan

This is exactly why I despise the uniparty/GOPe/RINO coalition more than I will ever will the commie dems. One is a minority party that can be beaten, the other is a traitorous caucus who raises the debt limit every time in the last two generations and put us in debt of $47,000,000,000,000 and rising.

The rats have nothing on despicable RINOism as they work as a team for the redistribution of wealth. And exactly why I rant for a third party frequently, the problem with this is that we need a two-party system initially which we haven’t had since before ALgore invented the internet.


14 posted on 10/04/2025 3:48:09 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: RandFan

This is somewhat informative:

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/offsetting-aca-enhanced-subsidy-extensions


19 posted on 10/04/2025 4:21:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RandFan

The depths of stupidity this man will sink to in his quest for publicity are unbelievable.


21 posted on 10/04/2025 4:22:54 AM PDT by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: RandFan
Here's my take...This may be his personal view....BUT....he doesn't represent just himself...and the majority of WE THE PEOPLE...say...open it up!!

It's not his personal call. We all want smaller government...but it takes time.

23 posted on 10/04/2025 4:31:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RandFan

Praise God for the truth and Senator Paul who courageously expresses it!


24 posted on 10/04/2025 4:34:45 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: RandFan

Sometimes to see clearly one needs to step back and see the bigger picture. Rand Paul’s statement is asinine. It’s a fantasy. He is taking a position that reverberates with fiscal conservatives but in reality it makes no sense.

The house has been working on the 2026 budget and making good progress to be done on time for the first time in many years. They need a few weeks to get that work done in time for the Nov deadline. There are lots of cuts in the new budget.

Rather than voting to allow the Government to remain open for 7 weeks and get the new budget finalized Rand Paul votes to waste a tremendous amount of Federal dollars on a shutdown, impact the lives of service members and WIC. He says he’s doing it because the CR doesn’t cut spending.

What utter nonsense. Cutting spending in a CR is ridiculous. Not possible just a self-serving fig leaf for Paul’s irrelevance. If it takes months to get the 12 budget resolutions hammered out and passed how would the same care and diligence be achieved in a CR. Paul fools the same group over & over.


29 posted on 10/04/2025 4:42:10 AM PDT by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: RandFan

Hi RandFan - I hope you are well. I have never gamed out in my mind (or on paper) what happens during the shutdown that occurs periodically. If there is nothing done, can’t Congress move to the next budget year and pass appropriation bills for post October 1? If that is done, then the shutdown is a blessing in disguise as it prevents spending at exorbitant Biden levels. Then, in effect, the “new” post October 1 government can be funded and operated. Correct? If that is true, why the pressure to pass a CR? Couldn’t mop up appropriation bills take care of what is necessary? It would almost be similar to a business taking a Chapter 11 in bankruptcy. Prior debt moved aside, and start anew.

Just musing this morning as I plot how I can best prolong the shutdown.

Gwjack


31 posted on 10/04/2025 4:52:55 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: RandFan

What I’m thinking of is to slightly and generally increase the state Medicaid expansion share to 5% plus the highest rate of state income tax.

That would make Medicaid expansion cheaper for no income tax red states like Florida and Texas.

To help fund likely Medicaid expansion to states like Texas and Florida, the state Medicaid shares (traditional & expansion) would increase annually starting in 2028 by a percentage equal to the deficit in the fiscal year ending prior to the calendar year divided by $1 trillion. That would be a 1.5% increase for a $1.5 trillion deficit, or a .6% increase for a $600 billion deficit.

To also help fund likely Medicaid expansion to red states like Texas and Florida, I would impose these premium minimums, whichever is the higher:
1. 2% of the Medicare premium amount per insured year of age as of the start of coverage
2. a percentage of the premium amount equal to the household income percentage of FPL - 60% divided by 4

For a 5-year-old, 7-year-old, 32-year-old and 34-year-old, the ages would sum to 88 and for 1 the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be a (88/65)*$185 or $250.46.

For a 5-year-old kid and a 27-year-old mom the ages would sum to 32 and for 1 the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be (32/65)*$185 or $91.07.

To make all that palatable to the Democrats, I would lower the original PPACA subsidy threshold from 100% of FPL to 80% of FPL.

The maximum federal subsidy amount would go from 100% of the second cheapest copper plan at 80% of FPL to 0% at 400% of FPL.

Copper plans would be limited to a maximum deductible of three times the Medicare Part A amount (2025: $1676).


40 posted on 10/04/2025 5:35:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RandFan

Rand Paul has Libertarian Disease. Yes, he’s right about this. But that’s not the problem.

The problem is rounding up 51 votes in the Senate, 218 votes in the House, 60 votes to break a democrat filibuster, and then talking Trump, who is a populist, not a conservative, into signing a major reform of entitlements.

Rand Paul has never been interested in actually passing legislation. He’s interested in demonstrating his ritual purity.


43 posted on 10/04/2025 5:42:22 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: RandFan

The federal fiscal problem is mainly medical cost based.

I believe most hospitals should be split into two competing entities. Those hospitals would no longer be local monopolies. No union should be able to contract with both. Their union contracts should have to expire at least three months apart.

Drug coverage should be separated out from medical service coverage and sold on a national basis. You would pick a hospital cost coverage plan and then a hospital cost coverage plan approved drug plan.

Once drug coverage is split off, hospitals could run hospital cost coverage plans without insurance company middlemen.

Services that are (or could be) rendered on an outpatient basis by individuals might be moved outside of the health care cost insurance system.


48 posted on 10/04/2025 6:26:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RandFan

He’s a drama queen


49 posted on 10/04/2025 6:30:56 AM PDT by sopo
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To: RandFan

Paul is right, but he is wrong.

The GOP in the house has budget allocation bills in the making, as part of the regular budget and spending allocation legislation. Some of those bills could be ready for House votes before December.

That, not the CR, is when the GOP can make some cuts.

The CR is just to get some more time, that’s all.


52 posted on 10/04/2025 7:32:26 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: RandFan
"They are the hypocrites not Senator Paul."

I stand with Rand. And his Fan.

Haters lash at the conscience of a Free Republic.

54 posted on 10/04/2025 9:24:49 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: RandFan

Rand, I used to like you, but you have become a one note Samba. Just STFU already. NO ONE is listening to you.

You are shouting in the wilderness. (idiom for an individual expressing an unpopular or ignored opinion.)

You are pathetic. You accomplish NOTHING! You just rant and rave to ZERO effect. Why don’t you try to accomplish something that is actually attainable.


55 posted on 10/04/2025 9:57:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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