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Vance: It is ‘clearly time’ for Russia to ‘talk seriously’ about peace
Politico ^ | 9/28/2025 | CHEYANNE M. DANIELS

Posted on 09/28/2025 9:09:57 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vice President JD Vance on Sunday attributed President Donald Trump’s recent change in attitude toward the Russian-Ukrainian war to the loss of human life and the impact to Russia’s economy.

“The Russian economy is in shambles. The Russians are not gaining much on the battlefield. It’s clearly time for them to listen to his passionate plea for them to come to the table and actually talk seriously about peace,” Vance said in an interview with Fox News’ Martha MacCallum that aired on “Fox News Sunday.”

“I think what has changed is the reality on the ground, with the Russians killing a lot of people and losing a lot of people and they don’t have much to show for it,” he added.

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“What we have seen over the last couple weeks, the Russians have refused to sit down with any bilateral meetings with Ukrainians. They have refused to sit down with any trilateral meetings,” Vance said. “A lot of people are dying and they don’t have a lot to show for it. How many more people are they willing to lose? How many people are they willing to kill for very little, if any, gain in the military advantage on the ground there?”

Vance on Sunday stopped short of saying he would support sending Tomahawk long-range missiles to Ukraine, which Zelenskyy reportedly asked Trump for during their meeting at the United Nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: Kazan

Interesting reading…

Kazan’s Muslims and the Making of Imperial Russia

https://history.wisc.edu/publications/tatar-empire-kazans-muslims-and-the-making-of-imperial-russia/


41 posted on 09/28/2025 3:34:24 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus; Kazan
Interesting reading…

Kazan’s Muslims and the Making of Imperial Russia

Interesting reading…

M [As of September 27, 2025]

No "marcusmaximus" on the donors list! Wha happen?

Jump on the Free Republic donations train, freeploadusmaximus.

“Hey, marcus, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.”

42 posted on 09/28/2025 3:49:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Kazan

More interesting reading…

Kazan declared the cultural capital of the Islamic world in 2026

https://azon.global/en/posts/Turkish-World/kazan-declared-the-cultural-capital-of-the-islamic-world-in-2026


43 posted on 09/28/2025 3:52:46 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: kiryandil
This thread continues most amusingly. Little Marky probably hasn't seen any iconic American films like those above, or he would know "Kazan" was a name and word far more broadly found than his simplistic taunts of a Freeper. One of Kazan's films is named "America, America," about a Greek immigrant seeking his way to -- surprise -- America.

"Known for his creative stage direction, Elia Kazan was born Elias Kazantzoglou on September 7, 1909 in Constantinople, Ottoman Empire (now Istanbul, Turkey). Noted for drawing out the best dramatic performances from his actors, he directed 21 actors to Oscar nominations, resulting in nine wins. He directed a string of successful films, including A Streetcar Named Desire (1951), On the Waterfront (1954), and East of Eden (1955). During his career, he won two Oscars as Best Director and received an Honorary Oscar, won three Tony Awards, and four Golden Globe Awards."

Source: Elia Kazan(1909-2003)

He'd probably be shocked to learn there is a Moscow in Idaho, one of twenty plus -- so un-American to be in America....

Or that there is a St. Petersburg in Florida. So un-American....

Or that Kazan, that American, was of Greek descent.

But when one has little discussion and debate on a FR forum, name calling and taunts are the "go to."

44 posted on 09/28/2025 4:04:37 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus; Kazan
I brushed off your newest White-Knightink хлопець, mucus.

By contributing at least $30/month (or $360/year) to Free Republic you can be a member of the Free Republic Dollar-A-Day club."You can contribute any combination of monthly and/or one-time contributions to reach this goal."

Or you can be like marcus, and not contribute ANYTHING but spam, rooterspimpink and blogpimping to Free Republic!

45 posted on 09/28/2025 4:08:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Kazan

More interesting reading…

Kazan Forum 2025: Russia Courts Islamic World as Taliban Sends Its First Delegation

https://themedialine.org/top-stories/kazan-forum-2025-russia-courts-islamic-world-as-taliban-sends-its-first-delegation/


46 posted on 09/28/2025 4:08:59 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
But when one has little discussion and debate on a FR forum, name calling and taunts are the "go to."

To be fair, freeploadusmaximus isn't here to improve the forum, nor make an honest contribution. He's here to disrupt.

The list of great films by Elia Kazan is staggering - but our feckless deadbeat spammer doesn't care about that.

He's pandering to the "Russher Bad" FR neocon lowbrows.

47 posted on 09/28/2025 4:13:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus; Kazan; Worldtraveler once upon a time
More interesting reading…

Even more interesting reading…

Number of times marcusmaximus, the freeploading FR spammink troll has appeared on the Free Republic donor list:

.

(short read) 😉😂😂

48 posted on 09/28/2025 4:17:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: PIF

“ It’s clearly time for the historically unaware and naive Vance to get a clue: Putin does not want peace; peace to him is a weakness to be squashed by brute force.”

It’s not up to Putin. Stop buying LNG and oil from Russia and the war ends tomorrow. Been saying this for two years.


49 posted on 09/28/2025 4:36:28 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Gary Gilmore the POS who murdered Charlie Kirk!)
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To: kiryandil; Worldtraveler once upon a time
I guess that makes “Worldtraveler” (even his handle is long and boring) YOUR boyfriend because he just white knighted YOU (#38)

I only posted because you’re pulling the same scummy troll tactic on everyone who makes you look stupid (apparently there are a lot us, since it’s so easy) and you need to stop.
50 posted on 09/28/2025 4:42:19 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Wow, here comes the silly name calling. Tell me again how you have “thick skin”? Where’s the phony high-mindedness we have come to expect from you? I love your pretentious phrasing like “Alas” and “a most excellent observation”, like you sit around wearing a ruffed collar and laugh a high-pitched girly laugh like a 12th century English nobleman. Please do more!

And keep pretending like we don’t fully support our President and VP - that’s just more of your filthy propaganda.
51 posted on 09/28/2025 4:52:29 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Wow, here comes the silly name calling. Tell me again how you have “thick skin”? Where’s the phony high-mindedness we have come to expect from you? I love your pretentious phrasing like “Alas” and “a most excellent observation”, like you sit around wearing a ruffed collar and laugh a high-pitched girly laugh like a 12th century English nobleman. Please do more!

And keep pretending like we don’t fully support our President and VP - that’s just more of your filthy propaganda.
52 posted on 09/28/2025 4:52:33 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: Apparatchik
Beautifully imaginative, Rat Chick. You could join Laz’ Writers Guild. Alas — there's that word again — I sent the ruff out to be laundered. It was just to wishy-washy.
53 posted on 09/28/2025 5:05:33 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Alas😂


54 posted on 09/28/2025 5:14:40 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: Apparatchik
Great catch!

The best I can do is mention your chosen moniker here on Free Republic.

"An apparatchik (Russian: аппара́тчик) was a full-time, professional functionary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union or the Soviet government apparat (аппарат, apparatus), someone who held any position of bureaucratic or political responsibility, with the exception of the higher ranks of management called nomenklatura. James Billington describes an apparatchik as "a man not of grand plans, but of a hundred carefully executed details."[1] The term is often considered derogatory, with negative connotations in terms of the quality, competence, and attitude of a person thus described."

"Members of the apparat (apparatchiks or apparatchiki) were frequently transferred between different areas of responsibility, usually with little or no actual training for their new areas of responsibility. Thus, the term apparatchik, or "agent of the apparatus" was usually the best possible description of the person's profession and occupation.[3] Not all apparatchiks held lifelong positions. Many only entered such positions in middle age.[4] They were known to receive various benefits including free holiday vouchers, free meals and accommodation.[5] Today apparatchik is also used in contexts other than that of the Soviet Union or communist countries. According to Collins English Dictionary the word can mean "an official or bureaucrat in any organization".[6] According to Douglas Harper's Online Etymology Dictionary, the term was also used in the meaning "Communist agent or spy", originating in the writings of Arthur Koestler, c. 1941."

Apparatchik Wiki

Alas, that is the moniker you self-selected to use on this forum. Probably for speaking Russian.
55 posted on 09/28/2025 5:24:25 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
It would never have occurred to you that my chosen handle was meant to be self-denigrating. Yours reeks of boastfulness and unwarranted pridefulness, but that suits you

moniker…. 🤣


56 posted on 09/28/2025 5:38:54 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: Apparatchik
Nice to know you know what a Thesaurus is.

If your "chosen handle was meant to be self-denigrating," it seems consistent with your urge to denigrate in this silly exchange.

But the pink dots and blue eye shadow were lovely. One observes this wee game between us was spawned by your entry into the thread at comment # 32. It's quite an amusing back-and-forth of no consequence to the thread's original theme. You must really love your M&Ms.

57 posted on 09/28/2025 5:49:00 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Kazan

Your line of pro-Putin clownery is getting stale. Checkmate for Putin is this winter, as Russian oil refineries get disabled one by one. Get repaired, then get blown up again.
Putin is spinning, while Ukraine is winning the oil sanctions game.


58 posted on 09/28/2025 5:49:51 PM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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To: dennisw

Checkmate, Putinites!


59 posted on 09/28/2025 8:23:17 PM PDT by ichabod1 (lets change our name to the United States of Trump!)
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To: dennisw
Sure, Denny, the sanctions miserably failed for more than three years and, now, are suddenly going to work!

Russian Derangement Syndrome retards the mind every bit as much as Trump Derangement Syndrome does.

There is no scenario where Ukraine gets any territory back. And, it's becoming increasingly likely it will lose everything east of the Dnieper river and, probably, Odessa, too.

There is no spinning a win for Ukraine out of all this.

60 posted on 09/28/2025 8:49:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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