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Iraqi Marsh Arabs poling mashoofs, traditional canoes, loaded with freshly cut reeds
Reed Goodman, Clemson University
Reed Goodman, Clemson University

1 posted on 09/02/2025 12:00:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Of course.


3 posted on 09/02/2025 12:02:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Captain Obvious confirms this universally understood geographic requirement for the early civilizations of man.


4 posted on 09/02/2025 12:03:34 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: SunkenCiv

More importantly, private property rights.

The Noblest Triumph.

https://www.amazon.com/Noblest-Triumph-Property-Prosperity-Through/dp/0312210833


5 posted on 09/02/2025 12:05:08 PM PDT by rey
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To: SunkenCiv

95% of early settlements were near water sources by necessity. They were necessary for crop growth, defense, and other things necessary for civilizations. That is why the Fertile crescent was the early site for human development (between the Tigris and Euphrates), and The Egyptian Empire on the Nile, etc.


9 posted on 09/02/2025 12:15:01 PM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bfl study.


12 posted on 09/02/2025 12:27:08 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: SunkenCiv

Just as rivers and tides shaped our current civilization, so too they shaped the previous one, destroyed during the Younger Dryas event, and now under hundreds of feet of ocean water and uncountable feet of silt.


14 posted on 09/02/2025 12:33:17 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv
Researchers argue that this led to the development of social complexity, labor specialization, and hierarchical political structures, since the situation required large-scale resource management on a state-wide level.

And so led to the first armies rather then war bands.

Maybe.

15 posted on 09/02/2025 12:44:03 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The research shows that between 7,000 and 5,000 years ago, the Persian Gulf extended further inland, and tides pushed fresh water twice daily up into the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.

Are they starting to admit that the current sea levels aren't the highest ever? LOL (For some reason I have Rush's ta-dut-dut, ta-dut-dut "global warming update" in my head. LOL)

By the way, the Persian Gulf being extended further inland 7,000 to 5,000 years ago seems to correspond with the Holocene Climate Optimum that FReepers already knew about (graph below getting posted every now and then).


16 posted on 09/02/2025 12:56:53 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Please show the work that supports your timelines.


17 posted on 09/02/2025 2:44:05 PM PDT by ScottHammett
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