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To: marcusmaximus
Russians control less of Ukraine now, then they did at the start of Putin's invasion.


10 posted on 08/24/2025 6:38:54 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: tlozo

Putin boasted to President Trump in Alaska that Russia will conquer the entirety of Donetsk by October.


12 posted on 08/24/2025 6:49:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: tlozo

You think like a westerner…..fact is Ukraine has been effectively “ attrited” by Vlad….the West has no stomach for attrition, and no understanding of Russian warfare….scorched Earth and attrition is the Russian way, always has been.

at·trit (ə-trĭt′)
tr.v. at·trit·ted, at·trit·ting, at·trits or at·trit·ed or at·trit·ing
- To weaken or reduce in number by stress or military action: “attriting enemy forces faster than they could be replaced”.


36 posted on 08/24/2025 8:45:26 AM PDT by delta7
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NATO choose to re-create the condisiton and tactics of WWI.

WWI did not involve much land changing hands either, but the death toll was millions.

Germany who had traded with the US prior to entry of US troops in Europe, was dependent upon gunpower from America. Once the munitions ran out, Germany could not slingh the lead necessary to conduct trench warfare.

Ukraine is dependent upon the US. Today the US is incapable of continuing to arm Ukraine. US Doctrine is to fight short ware. Ukraine was given a 10-year build up of weapons and training that resulted in 1.2m soldiers trained and 800k in the active military. Today Ukraine can field under 300k, and much of that is dedicated to civil control of the Zelinski regime in the form now National Guard designated AZOV/Bandaras.

Even as the Ukraine military shrinks, the ability of the EU and US to provide reduced vlumnes of equipment and munitions has not been able to keep pace.

In about 6 months, republish this chart and we will see huge spikes as the Russian carve up everything east of the Donas after they wipe out Ukrainian forces east of the D’niper.


46 posted on 08/24/2025 1:05:00 PM PDT by Jumper
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