Trump sends letter of support on Ukraine’s Independence Day, as Zelensky says Kyiv ‘will not lose’ the war

CNN ^ | 8/24/2025 | Svitlana Vlasova, Todd Symons and Billy Stockwell

[Kazan]

Ukraine has already lost the war.

The annexed territory, with the consent of those living there, will be part of the Russian Federation as long as any of us are breathing.

[DesertRhino]

They never had operational control, nor a Ukrainian nuclear missile force.

[DesertRhino]

That’s the USSR.... that ended 35 years ago. Your like some dork in 1980 angry at the Germans or Japanese.
That USSR entity ended.... just as the Ukrainian nation ended in 2014 with the CIA/Banderist coup.

[ansel12]

“”””” just as the Ukrainian nation ended in 2014 with the CIA/Banderist coup.”””””

Then what nation’s troops is President Trump currently training, as they fight Russia and North Korea?

[Jumper]

Trump literally cannot continue to destroy American foreign policy. There are no do’overs with the President making decisions on the fly, and Trump in the moment does not consider the consquences.

The damage Trump has done to relations with India may take a generation or more to regian trust.

The case for Brics initially was that the pocketbook economics of third world global south and non-aligned states literally could not afford US/EU level prices and the ressultant trade deals, the sanctions, tariffs, threats, or frozen assets. Today the case for Brics is the stability that comes with now doing business with the US - the US has not continunity anymore in politics or international relations - we are bi-polar based on the the DNC/RNC holding sway.

Trump has created a aversion to working or dealing with the US, and he has show neither his own words or the treaties or agreements with the US are worth believing.

American used to be the country you could trust. Today our domestic politics has become our whiplash way of dealing with other countries.

The American people will pay a price for this failure to be trustworthy.

Having reitred from the Army and foreign service, it has been horrifying to watch Obama flip friends to foes and vice versa, only to be followed by the headless Biden admin and now Trump the EGOmanic.

[Jumper]

NATO choose to re-create the condisiton and tactics of WWI.

WWI did not involve much land changing hands either, but the death toll was millions.

Germany who had traded with the US prior to entry of US troops in Europe, was dependent upon gunpower from America. Once the munitions ran out, Germany could not slingh the lead necessary to conduct trench warfare.

Ukraine is dependent upon the US. Today the US is incapable of continuing to arm Ukraine. US Doctrine is to fight short ware. Ukraine was given a 10-year build up of weapons and training that resulted in 1.2m soldiers trained and 800k in the active military. Today Ukraine can field under 300k, and much of that is dedicated to civil control of the Zelinski regime in the form now National Guard designated AZOV/Bandaras.

Even as the Ukraine military shrinks, the ability of the EU and US to provide reduced vlumnes of equipment and munitions has not been able to keep pace.

In about 6 months, republish this chart and we will see huge spikes as the Russian carve up everything east of the Donas after they wipe out Ukrainian forces east of the D’niper.

[Jumper]

That is why Mao Tse Sung said with an attitude, No Man No Problem.

Just as Ukraine wiped out the residents in Kursk so too will the Ukrainian population be pushed out instead of slaughtered, raped, tourtured by AZOV.

For the next 30 years, all the movies will have Ukrainian thugs and prostututes instead of Russia’s in the new John Wick type movies, because this is the reality of what is already happening to Ukrainian women and men... they become thugs in the countries they or the women....

[McGruff]

It's good that Trump has resolved his differences with Zelensky so that they can get back to the their war on Russia.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Zelensky’s new definition of Victory: Russian Soldiers marching in streets of Kiev. Russians vow to fix up part of East Ukraine and decorate it with colorful Russian Flags. Lots of Peace time jobs fixing things and rebuilding. All the Russian Churches re-opening with amnesty for imprisoned Priests and nuns. An end of “Press Gangs” pulling young men into vans to fight. Mr. Zelensky gets to re-tire to his villa in the South Of France.