Posted on 08/21/2025 7:19:38 AM PDT by delta7
Congressman Matt Gaetz proposed a radical peacetime solution – allow Russia to join NATO. “Before you suggest I’m crazy for thinking about NATO and Russia as partners, the idea has been floated by foreign policy thinkers on the right and left for some time,” Gaetz added.
“In 1997, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing on NATO expansion. President Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, reflected on groundbreaking cooperation between NATO and Russia.” The concept never came to fruition as NATO decided that encircling Russia was of paramount concern, and partnering with its greatest enemy was of no interest to the neocons who WANT war. “Michael McFaul was President Obama’s ambassador to Russia. In 2006, he wrote an article entitled, ‘Why a Democratic Russia Should Join NATO,’” Gaetz went on. “Again, this reinforces that NATO membership is an earned reward, not an entitlement, but why not give Russia a chance to earn it?”
McFaul’s piece on Russian NATO membership was published in July 2006. But you must read between the lines, as the ambassador was suggesting more than mere integration. “In Russia, they are represented by the corrupt bureaucracy and advocates of authoritarianism who believe that greater contact with the West restricts their power and diminishes their wealth. In the West, and especially in the United States, they are represented by policymakers and analysts who believe that Russians do not value democracy, Russian leaders are imperialists, and Russia therefore can never be considered part of the West,” McFaul wrote.
He continued to say that the West was not threatening to Russia, nor are “Russians genetically disposed towards autocracy nor historically destined to remain imperial.” Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, the West refuses to consider Russia a true democracy because it upholds nationalist views. Russia refuses to bend the knee to the globalist world order and, therefore, is considered an “unqualified member of the West.”
A regime change would alter the West’s perspective, as the West has long sought control over Russia. McFaul suggested that European leaders should outline a framework for Russia to join the European Union to become fully integrated into the West “even if it takes chunks of centuries.” Again, Russian NATO membership is contingent on Russia becoming a Western globalist world order member.
Obama’s Russian ambassador then went on to state that Russia must establish closer relations with other globalist organizations such as the United Nations, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe. Furthermore, Russia was to support the United States in its war in the Middle East and establish a “regional security organization, not unlike the CSCE that the United States and the Soviet Union anchored when first formed in 1974.”
Russia would never agree to join NATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was founded in the aftermath of the last World War to counter Russian influence, despite Russia being an ally during wartime. NATO incorporated Eastern bloc countries of the former Soviet Union to weaken Russia’s global influence in a move that humiliated the Russian people. Even after the Cold War, NATO continued to encircle Russia and expand eastward to assert dominance.
Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin was cautious about NATO expansion but agreed to join the Partnership for Peace in 1994 to maintain diplomatic relations with the West. Yeltsin then signed on to the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act that stated Russia and NATO would not consider each other adversaries.
NATO promised not to place nuclear weapons in new member states. Both sides agreed to increased transparency and cooperation. Every promise imploded in 2014 after the annexation of Crimea, the installation of a faux Ukrainian government, and the lie that was the Minsk agreement.
“Take care of Russia,” were Yeltsin’s final words to Putin before relinquishing power. Not only is Putin protecting Russia against foreign influence, but he is keeping the true hardliner oligarchs who wish to recreate the glory days of the USSR at bay.
However, both the hardliners and NATO have been impatiently waiting for a misstep from Putin since he took office. Russia does not want to become a vassal state of the West. NATO was formed to combat Russia and now acts as a retirement home for neocons who want to see Russia destroyed before they take their final breaths.
Russia join NATO against who?
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China. The nation that feels that all others are barbarians, and must yield.
NATO is nothing but a business, one that thrives on war and stirring up hatred and paranoia, especially about Russia.
China is currently one of Russia’s strongest allies,
Russia join NATO against who?
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An additional reply: Muslim extremism. We have at least one NATO member whose leader would like to reestablish a caliphate. That same member has facilitated the migration of vast numbers of Muslims into Europe. We may find ourselves with a common interest in the future.
Of course there is the belief that Russia is Magog, and is beyond redemption. Only the Lord knows for sure.
And, when are you moving to Russia?
“Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin”
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
About Defendant
Born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation.
Accused LastName
Vladimirovich Putin
Accused FirstName
Vladimir
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Allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute). The crimes were allegedly committed in Ukrainian occupied territory at least from 24 February 2022. There are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the aforementioned crimes, (i) for having committed the acts directly, jointly with others and/or through others (article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute), and (ii) for his failure to exercise control properly over civilian and military subordinates who committed the acts, or allowed for their commission, and who were under his effective authority and control, pursuant to superior responsibility (article 28(b) of the Rome Statute).
https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/vladimir-vladimirovich-putin
“”Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin”
300k dead
11% inflation
21% interest rates
State pension fund depleted
Male lifespan 64 years
Food shortages
“Yet, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin”
Key points about Putin’s alleged corruption and wealth
Estimates of “dark money”:
A 2020 report by the Atlantic Council estimated that Russians hold approximately $1 trillion in “dark money” hidden abroad, according to the BBC. The report suggests that about a quarter of this amount is controlled by Putin and his close associates (oligarchs), and that this money could be used for activities such as espionage, terrorism, and political manipulation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+corruption+money&oq=putin+corruption+money
Cheaper and safer just to dissolve NATO.
Russia joins NATO against Elbonia (which has always had aggressive tendencies)
Мартин looks East Slavic. That might explain his fealty to his Fatherland Russia.
Oh, Maddie Half-bright was for it. Nuf sed.
So, as a NATO member, defend against itself? All this would do is put us on the hook for when China decides to annex their “Northern Resource Area.”
Gaetz is a lunatic. This merely confirms what millions have long known.
Mister Armstrong sometimes gets a crazy idea in his head.
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He reports much news our western MSM “ overlooks”. Yahoo picked up on this one, as did Armstrong….Gaetz merely stated what was known for a few decades.
I don’t agree with everything he posts, but do read his news as it is jam packed full of statistics, facts and figures. His Socrates computer monitors and tracks every financial sector in the world, daily. Tracking the Wealth movements of the world leads to understanding cycles and trends- even war.
“ Martin Armstrong”
That can’t be his real name.
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This kook TxGator has posted numerous times he thinks me, Delta 7 is the legendary Martin Armstrong. I do call him a kook, and as he has been banned/ suspended from FR a few times, a real nutcase.
I will admit, I enjoy waiting for his “replies” to Armstrong’s articles….he looks foolish.
Silver is going to the moon!!!
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Keep your eyes on Platinum, those following the market state there has been “failures to deliver” from the western exchange last month. The paper contracts were denied delivery and forced to take cash settlements….Vlad holds the lion’s share of Platinum, some say he is just not selling to the West, another noted individual thinks Russia has run out.
In either case, Pt is poised to outperform both Ag and Au.
and at its ruler for life leader who will be approaching his 30th year of ruling.
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Having lived and worked in Moscow, I can tell you his people love him! He and President Trump have much in common, strong leaders who look out for their citizens ( unlike the very, very weak EU leadership).
That said, the Ukie war cheerleaders would love to see him leave, however, I can assure you his replacement will not show as much restraint as Vlad has. You should be thankful.
CINOs...Commies In Name Only...
What were you teaching the Russians?
By the way, “war-mongers” invade nations for new territory and wealth, they are not the people defending their homes, you support the invasion and want it to continue.
China now has more billionaires than the whole of Europe and currently probably has as many entrepreneurs as the US.
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Exactly. Martin’s Socrates computer forecasts the world’s Wealth moving from the West to the East by 2030….already in progress, China’s SGE is opening Gold depositories across the world, Saudi Arabia’s, UAE, and the Pacific regions.
Moscow is close to opening their own MOW Gold exchanges….important to note two facts:
1) they are prohibited from dealing in paper contracts, physical only. That effectively wipes out our Comex and LBMA….and price suppression.
2) the World’s Central Banks, the biggest money on the planet have been buying Historic amounts of Gold.
Anyone closely following can see what is happening.
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