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Camp Mystic’s owner warned of floods for decades. Then the river killed him
CNN ^ | July 11, 2025 | Curt Devine & Casey Tolan

Posted on 08/20/2025 4:46:20 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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1 posted on 08/20/2025 4:46:20 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

So the River Authority said it was better to have no warning system than one that wasn’t 100%.

Bizarre.


2 posted on 08/20/2025 5:03:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Horse...
Barn door...

All bureaucrats and politicians, who had any part in precautionary actions not being taken in this second child-killing disaster, need 20 years in jail...


3 posted on 08/20/2025 5:15:13 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

There’s plenty of fatal hubris on the hands of all involved in putting people in ‘Flash Flood Alley’ without a hardwired audible alarm system. This event was virtually guaranteed to happen.


4 posted on 08/20/2025 5:17:17 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Not to minimize his death, but he’s the one that continued putting kids in the camp, knowing the risk and shortcomings of the warning system.


5 posted on 08/20/2025 5:36:53 PM PDT by bigbob (If thou doth eff around, thou wilt findeth out)
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To: ConservativeMind

I worked in a large computer lab back in the late 90s

Right next to the door was a Big Red Button that said “emergency power cutoff” and yes I wanted to push it.

one day I walked in and there was an electrician messing with the Button, I asked him what was going on and he said

“it was determined that there is .0004% chance that if you hit the button the power will not shut off, so after consultation with the corporate Attys we have decided to remove the button since we could get sued if you pushed it and it did not work”

I still have that Big Red Button.


6 posted on 08/20/2025 5:37:22 PM PDT by algore
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

What a DICK!


7 posted on 08/20/2025 5:42:49 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: bigbob
According to LeadIQ, Camp Mystic, a girls' summer camp on the Guadalupe River, generates an estimated $15 million in annual revenue. Zoom info has it $17.2M
8 posted on 08/20/2025 5:53:44 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Someone ELSES problem???????? Why didn’t the gubmit DO something? /s

NO! What did YOU do?

Close this dangerous camp?

Drive through the camps with a blaring siren (FLOOD WARNING, EVACUATE NOW!)

NOBODY watching the weather reports? NOBODY monitoring water levels upstream 24/7? As owner of the camp, maybe one of those persons should have been YOU!

You got your reward.


9 posted on 08/20/2025 5:53:47 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The government is not responsible for technological systems to warn people of dangers they already know exist.


10 posted on 08/20/2025 5:56:33 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
They should have had a designated path or paths to higher ground...simple...

Hindsight is sad sometimes.

11 posted on 08/20/2025 6:11:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CodeToad

I personally wouldn’t prefer my tax dollars going towards flood warning systems. Considering the multitude of things they’re wasted on instead.


12 posted on 08/20/2025 6:13:26 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CodeToad

I personally would* prefer my tax dollars going towards flood warning systems. Considering the multitude of things they’re wasted on instead.


13 posted on 08/20/2025 6:13:59 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: faucetman
If you are adjacent to the river, you can make a flood alarm for almost nothing.

Water dissolves the uncoated aspirin, the clothes pin closes, and completes the circuit. I'd use a lawn mower battery, and larger alarm, to protect a camp, and the cost would be less than $50. Maybe a bit more if have to buy wire, clothes pins, and aspirin.

14 posted on 08/20/2025 6:26:52 PM PDT by Pilsner
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The plaintiffs will take all the cash and all their land.


15 posted on 08/20/2025 6:52:18 PM PDT by Round Earther
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Correct. Back in 1987 the camp owners should just have moved the cabins located in the river flood zone above the flood zone.


16 posted on 08/20/2025 7:51:23 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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Yea it seems to me they could hire a 24/7 person on a high platform monitoring the internet for warnings, and the river. Easy for me to say but that would not have been millions of dollars or anything. Have an air horn uo there to alert all; warm the counselors of the meaning of the air horn?


17 posted on 08/20/2025 7:52:31 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Pilsner

Yeah, but then you need a WiFi/Cellphone connection back to Headquarters for each of the 50 or so ‘sensors’.


18 posted on 08/20/2025 8:09:24 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: algore

I worked in a place that had a Big Red Button by the door.

Someone leaned on it once by accident.

It worked.

After that they installed a safety cover over it.


19 posted on 08/20/2025 8:13:23 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: MacNaughton

The cabins were not built in a flood zone alone, but in a floodway, a place where everyone in the Hill Country understands that water rises quickly, and violently. Kerr County and Camp Mystic had a duty to protect these children, and they failed.

As a result of that failure, seven- and eight-year-old girls were swept away. These were not acts of God. They were preventable tragedies.

My daughter wanted to attend Camp Mystic. My wife attended when she was a child. Several of my nieces have been campers there, as have the daughters of close friends.


20 posted on 08/20/2025 8:16:18 PM PDT by Round Earther
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