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My Current Thoughts on a Possible Peace Deal
Brian Griffin | 08/19/2025 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 08/19/2025 9:02:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin

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To: Brian Griffin

Nice work but it’s much easier to read Putin’s own words. Russian chauvinists of his ilk consider Ukrainains to be Russians and Ukraine to be part of Russia. And they are perfectly happy to kill anyone who disagrees.

Note the 2021 date. Mere months before Putin launched his genocidal war of choice on the second biggest country in Europe.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“

July 12, 2021

During the recent Direct Line, when I was asked about Russian-Ukrainian relations, I said that Russians and Ukrainians were one people – a single whole. These words were not driven by some short-term considerations or prompted by the current political context. It is what I have said on numerous occasions and what I firmly believe. I therefore feel it necessary to explain my position in detail and share my assessments of today’s situation.

First of all, I would like to emphasize that the wall that has emerged in recent years between Russia and Ukraine, between the parts of what is essentially the same historical and spiritual space, to my mind is our great common misfortune and tragedy. These are, first and foremost, the consequences of our own mistakes made at different periods of time. But these are also the result of deliberate efforts by those forces that have always sought to undermine our unity. The formula they apply has been known from time immemorial – divide and rule. There is nothing new here. Hence the attempts to play on the ”national question“ and sow discord among people, the overarching goal being to divide and then to pit the parts of a single people against one another....


21 posted on 08/19/2025 2:08:03 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: whitney69

Quite wrong. No one in Ukraine is fighting for Zelensky. Ukraine has had 5 presidents since Putin occupied the Kremlin. Sooner or later he’ll be gone like the rest. Ukrainians defend their nation so that their children aren’t murdered by Moscow and their national identity is not wiped off the face of the earth. Again. They know they history.


22 posted on 08/19/2025 2:14:17 PM PDT by lodi90
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“Ukrainians defend their nation so that their children aren’t murdered by Moscow and their national identity is not wiped off the face of the earth.”

Records indicate they are not fighting for their children or their country’s extermination. According to the latest figures from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), almost 7 million Ukrainian refugees currently live abroad. The majority of them, some 6.3 million, are in Europe. That figure includes some 1.3 million Ukrainians who fled to Russia and Belarus.

As for the military, the Ukrainian Army is facing an unprecedented desertion crisis. Due to many factors including battle fatigue, throughout 2024, tens of thousands of soldiers have decided to abandon their combat positions in order to go home. This comes at a moment where the AFU is already facing a critical shortage of manpower.

I’m not sure you know the military, but if Putin was to fight the war to win it outright and not destroy the areas and worth he wants back, then you’d know he isn’t trying to murder. That he could do much easier with the power he has.

wy69


23 posted on 08/19/2025 8:26:08 PM PDT by whitney69
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