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Farage adviser said UK would be better off if it had not fought in WW2
The Guardian ^ | Aug 17 | The Guardian

Posted on 08/17/2025 3:12:58 PM PDT by RandFan

An adviser used by Nigel Farage and others in Reform UK to boost their social media popularity has suggested that Britain would be better off had it stayed neutral in the second world war instead of fighting Nazi Germany.

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“Trillions of pounds of British taxes have been spent in foreign lands in the pursuit of ‘democracy’, ‘human rights’ and ‘doing what is right’,” the post said. “More than a million British lives have been lost since WW1 in wars and battles that have never once been fought by British men, on this island.”

Fighting in both the world wars ensured the UK was no longer a great power, he wrote: “We impoverished ourselves for decades, we didn’t finish paying the loans off to America until 2006. Our economy stagnated, we lost an empire, and we are pushed around by America. And Germany, a country we beat, has been richer than us since the 1970s.

“Alternative history is interesting; if Britain had not fought in WW1 and WW2, it would not have had to rely on America for economic support, and it would have had the independence to act accordingly. Britain could have developed India, Cyprus, Fiji, Malta, Saint Lucia, Seychelles, the Bahamas, Australia, Canada, South Africa, Ireland and New Zealand. In the coming meritocracy, perhaps Britain could regain some of these nations.”

The same post also argues against providing support for Ukraine after Russia’s invasion: “We are sending billions of pounds (that we cannot afford) to prop up a country that we have no allegiance to. Russia is not our enemy, they have not attacked Britain.”

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To: mass55th

He started the bombing of London in September.


The Brits bombed Berlin first.


41 posted on 08/17/2025 3:55:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Seems like Islam will conquer the world. Last places to fight will be India and Latin America.


42 posted on 08/17/2025 3:57:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dfwgator

Yeah.

After the Hitler-Stalin pact, USSR took parts of Poland too.

They invaded Poland about two weeks after their new Allie’s, the Nazis, did.

They were sharing Poland for about two years, each with their own annexes.

1941 the Nazis broke the pact and took all of Poland by taking the Polish territory that the USSR had taken in 1939.


43 posted on 08/17/2025 4:01:07 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dfwgator
"Not if the Brits told the French and Belgians to ‘flip off’."

Britain was not about to do that because Belgium was trying to remain neutral, but Germany invaded it anyway, violating the Treaty of London. Britain wasn't about to allow Germany to take control of the coast and waterways leading into Europe. Germany began bombing London on May 31, 1915, and continued until the summer before the war ended.

44 posted on 08/17/2025 4:01:13 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: RandFan

Britain would get maybe 10-20 years more of its empire. It was all going to go away eventually. It wouldn’t have had to pay for the war, but Germany would “eat Britain’s lunch” (to use a Bidenism) by outcompeting Britain in foreign markets (as would the US and Japan).


45 posted on 08/17/2025 4:01:20 PM PDT by x
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To: RandFan

The Guardian should instead look at the anti-Semitic drivel vomited up by the BBC World News service. It’s done CONSTANTLY, it’s publicly broadcasted, and it’s financed by anyone in Britain with a TV.


46 posted on 08/17/2025 4:04:41 PM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: RandFan

The UK had already bought the E-ticket to ride with WW1 so they had little choice in 1939.


47 posted on 08/17/2025 4:04:44 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: dfwgator
"The Brits bombed Berlin first."

The Nazis invaded the Channel Islands first on June 30, 1940. I'm not going to blame Britain for taking retaliatory action on August 25th of that year.

48 posted on 08/17/2025 4:05:35 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: MinorityRepublican

There is absolutely no doubt in my Military Mind.

And the ‘Socialist Democrats of America’ (TM) will speed that along as quickly as possible. *SPIT*


49 posted on 08/17/2025 4:06:03 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: RandFan

They could have had “peace in our time”.

No! Wait! Didn’t they try that at first?


50 posted on 08/17/2025 4:06:42 PM PDT by farmguy ( )
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To: RandFan

I’ve been thinking about that lately, but also about this: Britain was the world’s number 1 power in 1900 and far from that by 2000 (or even 1950). The ruler of Germany in 1900 was Victoria’s grandson, Edward VII’s nephew, and George V’s cousin. All he had to do was keep his country’s economy growing and cooperate with Britain, and Germany would have been in a marvelous position to pick up the pieces as Britain declined. Of course, Britain also should have recognized that working with Germany as well as with the US was essential, but Germany really f-ed up big time.


51 posted on 08/17/2025 4:07:03 PM PDT by x
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To: mass55th

If it wasn’t for France’s stupid alliance with Russia, the Germans wouldn’t have had to invade Belgium.

Why did the French care about who won between Germany and Russia?

Nicky deserves a lot of the blame for starting the war, too.


52 posted on 08/17/2025 4:07:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They’re communists. We can’t really afford to lose another election. In a way, we lucked out the last time with Joe Biden because he was that incompetent.


53 posted on 08/17/2025 4:08:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: mass55th

Actually Germany lost the Battle of Britain when Hitler resorted to terror bombing, instead of focusing on military targets.


54 posted on 08/17/2025 4:09:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Because Europe lives thier dumbwars.😡


55 posted on 08/17/2025 4:13:27 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO GODS BEFORE HIM!times over )
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree. 100%. President Trump is stopping the hemorrhaging...for now.


56 posted on 08/17/2025 4:14:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: dfwgator
"Actually Germany lost the Battle of Britain when Hitler resorted to terror bombing, instead of focusing on military targets."

They also lost that air war because Germany didn't have the means to produce as many planes as the UK. Britain also had better pilots. The V-1 and V-2 rockets were Hitler's last resort.

57 posted on 08/17/2025 4:20:13 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

They also lost that air war because Germany didn’t have the means to produce as many planes as the UK.


You mean as many planes as the US.


58 posted on 08/17/2025 4:21:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
"Why did the French care about who won between Germany and Russia?"

Don't know. You'll have to ask the froggies.

59 posted on 08/17/2025 4:21:38 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: dfwgator
"You mean as many planes as the US."

The U.S. didn't supply the Brits with any planes during the blitz. It wasn't until later that we began sending them planes.

60 posted on 08/17/2025 4:23:22 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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