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Posted on 08/17/2025 2:43:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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An archaeologist excavates animal bones in a pit at Usakli Hoyuk, Turkey.University of Pisa
The circular-shaped structure unearthed in Uşakli mound may point to the holy Hittite city of Zippalanda | Leman Altuntaş | Arkeonews | 27 December 2022 | Cover photo: Aerial view of Uşakli Höyük excavations. At the bottom center, the circular structure found during the 2022 excavation campaign is visible.Photo : Emanuele Taccola
IOW, it's a freakin' tomb.
Wow, I blew that. Here's the real link from the previous reply. I copied the HTML link and neglected to edit in the correct URL.
Sadly, we have our “rituals” too. We are not better than them, as a nation.
Yes, but they had the excuse of being a pre-Christian pagan civilization.
No mention of the word sacrafice, disgusting sanitizing of a horrible culture.
Thanks. We found a family of skeletons once. The baby had a puncture wound in the head, which means it was probably killed by the father. The mother had no apparent fractures. It was in a cave near Qumran, and we surmised that they were probably starving, and the father (or mother) killed the others. The dating indicated an age of around 2000 years ago.
Judaism = No more child sacrifice. No more paganistic child sacrifice. This was a great advancement for humanity. Though in the East, I suppose Buddhism also prohibits child sacrifice.
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Judaism started around 2000 BCE, traditionally marked by the covenant between God and Abraham, who is regarded as the patriarch of the faith. This foundational event set the basis for Judaism’s religious identity, including the laws given to Moses such as the Ten Commandments.
Buddhism began much later, in the 6th century BCE, founded by Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha) in northern India. After his enlightenment under the Bodhi tree, he spent about 45 years teaching the path to enlightenment and liberation from suffering.
True. We just sanitize it by the medical community and do it pre-birth.
God judged many ancient civilizations for ritual child sacrifice. He will not spare us.
Oh the human conditions and the self-inflicting ruse of overpopulation inculcating the inability to see alternatives to the descent into barbarism in the name of supposed advantages. Where was VHEMT when we didn't need them? Nor do we now. I somehow doubt its historic equal.
I knew that Darwin was Malthus' cousin (twice removed) but I hadn't considered until today that it was perhaps that inspiration from which the Galapagos were sought because they supposedly had always been uninhabited. I know that Thor Heyerdahl asked that question (for whom I have enormous respect) but all the pooh-pooh-pshawing I've seen have been on mostly agro-urban metrics, whatever evidences of the type of people he might have posited being much less sedentary. Yet it is entirely rational to expect that ancient Polynesian peoples made introductions to those islands for food production. Thus possibly indicating yet another "scientific" flubub.
Thoughts?
Over recent decades, I've been very uncomfortable with the idea of "Nature" as self optimizing when I see so many indications to the contrary. This is not to say that I'm in love with monoculture farming (quite the contrary), but that our propensity is to allow the marketplace to forget the importance of estimating stochastic risks in order to mitigate them objectively. This is the real driver of so much of what we too readily bewail about human influences on "Natural" systems (particularly soils), particularly when we have so little idea what those systems operate, much less how they got the way they did when European cultures invaded territories once managed by aboriginal peoples.
It's another one of those "We are Cain" problems, as we would seem too un-Abel to see through those glasses.
History is the fight between those who want to kill innocent babies and those who don’t.
It’s ongoing to this day.
One of the CREEPIEST places I’ve ever visited was Chichen Itza in Sunny Mexico.
Yeah, climbing their ancient Mayan ‘pyramids’ was great fun - but they also showed us the ‘bottomless pit’ pool where they threw young children draped in fine jewelry and other various treasure to their DEATHS to appease whatever god was on tap that day/month/year.
*SHUDDER*
"When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.
This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles and burn their idols in the fire. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
- Deuteronomy 7
There was a reason the Hittites were judged as evil and worthy of destruction...
Nope. The name Hittites from the OT was applied to a formerly unknown, then-newly discovered civ, which was dramatically referred to as “The Forgotten Empire”.
Because there’s no evidence they were sacrificed. That’s literally the only reason it isn’t mentioned. They probably died the same way so many other infants, children, and toddlers died at high rates, up until recent generations, and got a somewhat fancy interment because of the social status of their family.
Perhaps they were refugees during one of the uprisings during the 1st c AD.
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