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1 posted on 08/13/2025 8:48:43 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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[Trump's] Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky - Christian Bwahaha

Bwahaha is on some serious drugs when he's hallucinating his blog.

2 posted on 08/13/2025 8:57:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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are the reports all just chilling on the calls? In person or bust with these things. Trump has a weak hand because Trump, his constituency and the vast majority of the country simply don’t care enough. No one, NO ONE in the country is willing to join the actual war so why would Trump push for this which is basically what would be needed to prevent land concessions after Putin lost hundreds of thousands if not millions of young people to get the land in the first place. Also, Why does Trump need sanctions to stop people from buying Russian oil? Europe can stop immediately, they can also tariff the heck out of India AND China without the U.S doing it. They want the U.S to stick their necks out, damage relations with China and India so they can use deeper ties with China and India as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the U.S.


3 posted on 08/13/2025 8:57:47 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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The US should not say or do anything that would make getting a deal done more complicated.

Ukraine must be the decider for its negotiating side. The US government should make realistic suggestions, but in private conversations with responsible Ukrainians.

The EU, US, UK and Ukraine can all criticize unreasonable public Russian demands.

The US, UK and EU can inform Russia of possible future arms shipments to Ukraine if Russia is being unreasonable.

Vlad:

Here is a picture of Hegseth with the August production of Patriots. I hope you get ‘the picture’.

Don


4 posted on 08/13/2025 8:59:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Sounds great! Russia keeps Eastern Ukraine and Ukraine gets Moscow. Fair swap.


5 posted on 08/13/2025 9:01:04 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind.)
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Why bother - Russia only wants a pause to build up troops and arms to continue to take Ukraine. Land swap is a non-starter for Putin.


6 posted on 08/13/2025 9:01:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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There won’t be a lasting solution. Continental empires go to war for territory. They slice of a little piece here and a little piece there. None of those little pieces is worth fighting over. Eventually, they have the whole country. If Zelinsky agrees he’s probably out of power. Regardless, there will be an uncomfortable and often violated “peace” while both sides rearm and train for the next war. If the West rebuilds Ukraine but not Russia, then Russia will set its sights on some other, weaker target. But if Russia doesn’t continue taking territory, it dies.


7 posted on 08/13/2025 9:02:44 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (I had a tagline and I dropped it. The cat back-pawed it under the Barcalounger. )
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Best to carve up Ukraine to it’s historic roots…Russia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia etc each get their historic territories back….now that’s a Peace plan that would work!


12 posted on 08/13/2025 9:05:58 AM PDT by delta7
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Yeah, the Russians are expanding territory quickly now.


23 posted on 08/13/2025 9:25:27 AM PDT by struggle
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[April 28, 2025]

[Russian Foreign Minister] Sergey Lavrov: I have already given you part of the answer to this question. It was Kiev which withdrew from the negotiating process in April 2022. It acted this way at the request of its Western curators. In September of the same year, Vladimir Zelensky outlawed all talks with Russia. This piece of legislation remains in force. It must be cancelled. Otherwise, talks cannot resume. In his recent interview with CBS, Vladimir Zelensky once again spoke out against talks with Russia. Let me quote his words: “We can’t trust Russia. It’s that we can’t trust negotiations with Russia.”

We have made no secret regarding our position on the settlement. Russia proceeds from the premise that Kiev’s non-accession to NATO, as well as reaffirming its neutral and non-aligned status as per the 1990 Declaration on Ukraine’s State Sovereignty – these factors form one of the two pillars for a final settlement to the Ukraine crisis that would meet Russia’s security interests. The second pillar consists of overcoming the legacy of the neo-Nazi regime which took power in Kiev after the February 2014 putsch, including the initiative by its perpetrators to eradicate and cancel, in both physical and legislative terms, everything Russian, be it the Russian language, media, culture, traditions, or the canonical Orthodox faith.

The international recognition of Crimea, Sevastopol, the DPR, the LPR, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of Russia is another imperative.

All the commitments Kiev assumes must be legally binding, contain enforcement mechanisms and be permanent.

Demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine is also on the agenda, along with lifting sanctions, withdrawing lawsuits and cancelling arrest warrants, as well as returning Russian assets subjected to the so-called freeze in the West.

We will also insist on obtaining solid security guarantees for the Russian Federation in order to shield it from any threats emanating from hostile activities by NATO, the European Union and some of their member states along our western border.

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/2011929/

“Demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine”

Since Russia doesn’t want NATO or foreign troops in what is left of Ukraine, Ukraine must be able to defend itself and it will need the means to do so.

“de-Nazifying Ukraine”

The only thing I can think of doing is along German laws that ban Nazi ideology and symbols.


26 posted on 08/13/2025 9:36:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The new “redefined” ceasefire terms needs to allow fighting to continue for another 90 days! Russia is capturing Pork Roast now. already got chasiv yar, Constantinople-ski is upcoming.
then stop fighting and make borders temporary for 100 years.
forget the land swapping.
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This could go badly. Regardless - US weapons should not go to ukies- even if EU pays.Please just get the US out of it!


27 posted on 08/13/2025 9:52:42 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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Sure Russia can give back all of the land it took in Ukraine, Georgia, plus Kaliningrad, parts of Finland, and Sakhalin island and the Kuril islands to Japan. Invading another country must result in consequences for the aggressor, not rewards.


29 posted on 08/13/2025 10:39:22 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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