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Trump said to have told Zelensky land swaps will be needed
Baha Breaking News ^ | 8/13/2025 | Christian Baha

Posted on 08/13/2025 8:48:43 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

United States President Donald Trump told his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky during their call earlier today that territorial exchanges between Russia and Ukraine will be needed to achieve a peace deal, Axios reported on Wednesday.

On the other hand, the US president stressed that he cannot make final decisions on territorial issues because he's "not from the region." The alleged remark echoes similar statements previously made by Trump, stressing the importance of direct negotiations between Moscow and Kiev to achieve a lasting solution to the long-standing conflict. "Trump said it's Vladimir and Volodymyr who have to discuss territories with each other, not him," two sources familiar with the call between the presidents were quoted as saying.

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1 posted on 08/13/2025 8:48:43 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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[Trump's] Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky - Christian Bwahaha

Bwahaha is on some serious drugs when he's hallucinating his blog.

2 posted on 08/13/2025 8:57:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus

are the reports all just chilling on the calls? In person or bust with these things. Trump has a weak hand because Trump, his constituency and the vast majority of the country simply don’t care enough. No one, NO ONE in the country is willing to join the actual war so why would Trump push for this which is basically what would be needed to prevent land concessions after Putin lost hundreds of thousands if not millions of young people to get the land in the first place. Also, Why does Trump need sanctions to stop people from buying Russian oil? Europe can stop immediately, they can also tariff the heck out of India AND China without the U.S doing it. They want the U.S to stick their necks out, damage relations with China and India so they can use deeper ties with China and India as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the U.S.


3 posted on 08/13/2025 8:57:47 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: marcusmaximus

The US should not say or do anything that would make getting a deal done more complicated.

Ukraine must be the decider for its negotiating side. The US government should make realistic suggestions, but in private conversations with responsible Ukrainians.

The EU, US, UK and Ukraine can all criticize unreasonable public Russian demands.

The US, UK and EU can inform Russia of possible future arms shipments to Ukraine if Russia is being unreasonable.

Vlad:

Here is a picture of Hegseth with the August production of Patriots. I hope you get ‘the picture’.

Don


4 posted on 08/13/2025 8:59:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus

Sounds great! Russia keeps Eastern Ukraine and Ukraine gets Moscow. Fair swap.


5 posted on 08/13/2025 9:01:04 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Why bother - Russia only wants a pause to build up troops and arms to continue to take Ukraine. Land swap is a non-starter for Putin.


6 posted on 08/13/2025 9:01:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: marcusmaximus

There won’t be a lasting solution. Continental empires go to war for territory. They slice of a little piece here and a little piece there. None of those little pieces is worth fighting over. Eventually, they have the whole country. If Zelinsky agrees he’s probably out of power. Regardless, there will be an uncomfortable and often violated “peace” while both sides rearm and train for the next war. If the West rebuilds Ukraine but not Russia, then Russia will set its sights on some other, weaker target. But if Russia doesn’t continue taking territory, it dies.


7 posted on 08/13/2025 9:02:44 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (I had a tagline and I dropped it. The cat back-pawed it under the Barcalounger. )
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To: wiseprince

“Trump has a weak hand because Trump, his constituency and the vast majority of the country simply don’t care enough.”

Could even 2% of American college students point to Donetsk on a globe?


8 posted on 08/13/2025 9:03:17 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: wiseprince

No one, NO ONE in the country is willing to join the actual war

If so, then explain the hundreds of US volunteers in the Ukrainian International brigades, please.


9 posted on 08/13/2025 9:03:48 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: kiryandil

After Trumps call
Merz and Zelensky set peace conditions for Putin, including recognition of Russian occupied territory as a non-negotiable
https://rumble.com/v6xj32y-merz-and-zelensky-set-peace-conditions.html


10 posted on 08/13/2025 9:04:08 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Please don’t use google products, especially YouTube )
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To: Brian Griffin

Could even 2% of American college students point to Donetsk on a globe?


How many of them could point to their state capitol?


11 posted on 08/13/2025 9:05:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: marcusmaximus

Best to carve up Ukraine to it’s historic roots…Russia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia etc each get their historic territories back….now that’s a Peace plan that would work!


12 posted on 08/13/2025 9:05:58 AM PDT by delta7
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To: PIF

“Land swap is a non-starter for Putin.”

Many rural areas in Donetsk are pro-Ukrainian.

Most pro-Moscow separatists in Donetsk live in cities and towns.

In the USA, cities tend to be Democratic and rural areas Republican.


13 posted on 08/13/2025 9:06:17 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: janetjanet998
Merz and Zelensky set peace conditions for Putin, including recognition of Russian occupied territory as a non-negotiable

The Kraut and The Goblin doing their best to sabotage the talks.

LALALALALALALALALALALALA I'm not listening.

14 posted on 08/13/2025 9:08:27 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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“The international recognition of Crimea, Sevastopol, the DPR, the LPR, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of Russia is another imperative.”

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, April 28, 2025

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/2011929/

No western country is going to bless Russian territory snatching.


15 posted on 08/13/2025 9:09:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PIF
Russia only wants a pause to build up troops and arms to continue to take Ukraine.

Projection.

16 posted on 08/13/2025 9:09:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: PIF

They are all Democrats.


17 posted on 08/13/2025 9:09:29 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: PIF

Russia is winning the way they have always won, grinding out over time and using their larger man power, (they don’t care about how many deaths), so why would Putin agree to anything. He is just stalling and playing Trump for more time


18 posted on 08/13/2025 9:11:09 AM PDT by TECTopcat
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To: PIF; wiseprince
If so, then explain the hundreds of US volunteers in the Ukrainian International brigades, please.

Every country has a certain percentage of brain-damaged retards.

19 posted on 08/13/2025 9:12:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Alter Kaker

As long as we’re talking trade, Kamchatka for Portland would be sweet.


20 posted on 08/13/2025 9:12:52 AM PDT by katana
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