Posted on 08/11/2025 9:55:13 PM PDT by grundle
NEVER APPLIED FOR ANY JOB EXCEPT IN PERSON-—EVEN THE JOB IN A MACHINE SHOP WHERE I PORTED & POLISHED CHAMBERS IN CYLINDER HEADS TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE...
I NORMALLY DID ACCOUNTING.
AT THAT TIME, I WAS SELLING AUTO PARTS WHEN ACCOUNTING JOBS TOOK A HIT OVER COMPUTERS DURING THE DAY. THIS MACHINE SHOP WORK WAS MY 2ND JOB.
WAS 26-about 30.
AM NOW 85-—AND STILL FEMALE !!!
Yup. I know quite a few of them and they are just one of the reasons I am so happy every day I am retired.
Between SOX, thank you Enron and Ken Lay, and the new HR and the contracts group it got too much not fun any more.
Who remembers when HR was called Personnel?
Early 80's it began to change.
Fair warning, old uncle Frank is going to tell the “Cybercoders” stories again. If you’ve already heard them, feel free to skip this comment.
A few years ago I was COVID’d out of a job and was looking. I’m an embedded engineer with decades of experience. I got an e-mail from a female recruiter at Cybercoders about a position (company name not mentioned!). It was perfect. I responded, she asked for my resume, I gave it, we set up a call, she said I was qualified, she would submit me. Then nothing. She stopped answering my calls, her voicemail was full, and she didn’t respond to e-mails. This job listing that she sent me had some VERY PECULIAR wording in it, and I googled it and found the listing. It was for a closed position in Monterrey Mexico with Continental. I e-mailed her an angry e-mail pointing out that she was CLEARLY up to something, and that I had found the job, and didn’t appreciate what she was doing. The response I got was “No, that’s not the job”. 5 years later, I’ve still not heard anything else from her.
As if THAT wasn’t enough: A couple of weeks later, I get an e-mail from ANOTHER recruiter at the same company with ANOTHER job listing that I also was both qualified and interested in. Same song and dance, but this time when I get the recruiter on the phone I ask him for the company name. He tells me. Same thing. He’ll submit me, then nothing for 2-3 weeks. Voicemail full, no response to e-mails, etc. Since I have the name of the company, I go to their website, and the job is real. So, I apply. I get a call 3 hours later, and an interview the next day, and the job offer the day after. I start the job, and am onsite “for training” when I get an e-mail from this guy, he tells me that he’s still trying to get me an interview. I ask him who he’s talking with at the company. He gives me a name. I’m LITERALLY sitting next to the guy he mentions. (A guy who had been named in a marketing blitz for the company). I turn and ask this guy “Ever heard of this recruiter from Cybercoders named X?” “Nope! Never so much as heard of Cybercoders”. I respond to the e-mail and tell the recruiter “This guy says he’s never heard of you”. He says that’s just not true. I tell him that I went around him and got the job that he had “offered”. He tells me THAT’S not true either. I go to the lobby of the company, and take a selfie of me standing in front of the sign, and send THIS to him. He then says “You seem angry. You got the job, why are you mad?”
Really dude? Really?
I find that idea extremely naive and incomplete without a great deal more context.
The most profitable "businesses" are ones which violate laws. Sales of addictive drugs and traffic in sex slaves are two of the most obvious examples.
Such businesses exist for as long as they can get corrupt governments to tolerate or protect them.
Even within the arena of lawful businesses, the true goal often appears to be "pay the largest salaries and bonuses possible to executives" at the expense of employees and stockholders. A compliant board of directors and some devious accounting practices can help make this happen.
Business must be profitable in order to continue operating. I get that.
We allow businesses to continue because they provide benefits to a large number of people, starting with customers, employees, and owners - in that order of priority. All three groups must get something. The proportions are always negotiable.
The reaason for being in business is to make a profit
BKMK
I know someone who is a principle in a business, and he admits to posting jobs to look for qualified candidates, even if they don't have an open position immediately available.
He says that if the respondant to the ad is a stellar candidate, they will create a spot for that person, so they justify the "ghost ad" by saying that they don't have "no intention" of hiring someone; they're just always looking for exceptional talent.
-PJ
A lot of ghost job postings happen because of laws, they require you to post job listings before you fill a position, even though they already have somebody in mind to fill the position, so they post the position online gather a bunch of resumes they don’t even look at, and hire the person they were going to hire anyway. It’s a big waste of everyone time. Those laws needs to go or be changed.
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