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The Godfather Fans Only Just Solve Subplot Which Left Them Stumped for Decades
Express ^ | on, Jul 28, 2025 | Ewan Gleadow

Posted on 08/10/2025 2:09:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A subplot in the Francis Ford Coppola movie The Godfather has only just been solved by fans who couldn't work it out for years.

Fans of the legendary film The Godfather are only just working out a subplot decades on from its release. The Hollywood classic left some viewers stumped, with members of the r/Godfather Reddit page finally piecing together one of the film's smaller but still crucial storylines. A post to the forum saw users decipher a crucial detail which would lead to one of the film's most iconic scenes.

Mario Puzo's novel adaptation is hailed as one of the best films of all time, frequently topping best-of lists. The film still clearly has influence, as fans discuss it decades on from release. One detail that has left viewers stumped for years has finally been solved, it seems.

A fan asked: "Why are the police with Jack Woltz's horse? When Woltz shows Tom Haggen his horse in the stall - there is a police officer in there with the stable hand. Is he there to guard the horse? He did not do a very good job!"

Jack Woltz, a minor character in the first film portrayed by John Marley, is a movie producer who also runs a stable which houses prize-winning horse Khartoum.

Khartoum's head ends up in Woltz's bed, with hitman Luca Brasi killing the prize-winning horse. The plot points circling around the animal had left some viewers confused over the years, however.

One user wrote: "Khartoum was a $600,000 horse that was to be retired and put to stud. Woltz’s entire stable was to be built on this horse’s offspring so Woltz hired security to protect him.

Fans of the legendary film The Godfather are only just working out a subplot decades on from its release. The Hollywood classic left some viewers stumped, with members of the r/Godfather Reddit page finally piecing together one of the film's smaller but still crucial storylines. A post to the forum saw users decipher a crucial detail which would lead to one of the film's most iconic scenes.

Mario Puzo's novel adaptation is hailed as one of the best films of all time, frequently topping best-of lists. The film still clearly has influence, as fans discuss it decades on from release. One detail that has left viewers stumped for years has finally been solved, it seems.

A fan asked: "Why are the police with Jack Woltz's horse? When Woltz shows Tom Haggen his horse in the stall - there is a police officer in there with the stable hand. Is he there to guard the horse? He did not do a very good job!"

Jack Woltz, a minor character in the first film portrayed by John Marley, is a movie producer who also runs a stable which houses prize-winning horse Khartoum.

Khartoum's head ends up in Woltz's bed, with hitman Luca Brasi killing the prize-winning horse. The plot points circling around the animal had left some viewers confused over the years, however.

One user wrote: "Khartoum was a $600,000 horse that was to be retired and put to stud. Woltz’s entire stable was to be built on this horse’s offspring so Woltz hired security to protect him.

"In the brilliant video game you get to follow Paulie around avoiding or subduing many of these guards." Though the video game version of The godfather may not be familiar to viewers of the film, extra details can be found within.

One user praised the games and the additional detail, writing: "I loved that game! I loved all of those off screen moments you get to take part in. It seemed like it was made with love!"killing Khartoum, Don Corleone showed Woltz that his security was a joke."


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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Johnny Two Times. Wrong movie.


21 posted on 08/10/2025 2:28:50 PM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ConservativeMind

Me too

Me too.


22 posted on 08/10/2025 2:37:41 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: nickcarraway

It means the Las Vegas police were already ‘on the Corleone payroll’.


23 posted on 08/10/2025 2:38:31 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Impala64ssa

I thought Ed was a golden Palomino, but read somewhere he was something else. Can’t remember what.


24 posted on 08/10/2025 2:38:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: nickcarraway

Khartoum didn’t kill himself!


25 posted on 08/10/2025 2:39:46 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: tumblindice

Bamboo Harvester. No lie man.


26 posted on 08/10/2025 2:40:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: nickcarraway

A bigger plot hole concerns Michael’s service in the Marine Corps in the Pacific war.


27 posted on 08/10/2025 2:43:14 PM PDT by Orosius
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To: nickcarraway

Oy vey, they gave the guard an offer he couldn’t refuse.


28 posted on 08/10/2025 2:44:10 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Political insight on loan from Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SecondAmendment

“Look how they massacred my boy.”


29 posted on 08/10/2025 2:47:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Orosius
Which part? The timeline of him serving and getting the Navy Cross?

He enlisted in late 1941?

30 posted on 08/10/2025 2:48:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ConservativeMind

“I feel like I read that twice.”

Did you find the answer?


31 posted on 08/10/2025 2:52:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: nickcarraway

The fact that we’re told he enlisted on Pearl Harbor day, served throughout the war, seeing enough heavy combat that he has a chest full of medals and got a promotion to officer, and yet when he offers to kill Salazzo and McClusky, Sonny mocks him as a “nice college boy” with no experience of killing up close. It makes no sense.


32 posted on 08/10/2025 2:55:21 PM PDT by Orosius
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To: Orosius

Vito seems to disdain Michael’s war experience, so maybe Sonny does too.


33 posted on 08/10/2025 2:56:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Couldn’t make this film today. Not enough roles for women, blacks, and gays.


34 posted on 08/10/2025 2:59:25 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

IIRC in the original novel Fredo was a “Finocchio”.


35 posted on 08/10/2025 3:00:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Orosius

Sonny mocks him as a “nice college boy” with no experience of killing up close.


He assumed in combat, Michael shot the enemy from far away, and didn’t engage in any hand-to-hand combat. But I sense Michael wasn’t much for talking about his war experience.

I always think of the scene when he and Enzo The Baker stand outside of the hospital pretending to have guns to ward off the assasins. Enzo’s hands were shaking when Michael lit his cigarette, but Michael’s hands were steady. I always thought that scene was very significant in showing the Michael realized he had to take over the family because his battle experience trained him for it.


36 posted on 08/10/2025 3:04:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Vito seems to disdain Michael’s war experience, so maybe Sonny does too.


Ya think? Just watch the ending of Godfather II.


37 posted on 08/10/2025 3:05:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

As Yogi Berra once said, “It’ss Deja vu all over again.


38 posted on 08/10/2025 3:09:32 PM PDT by UnBubba
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To: ConservativeMind

It’s just your imagination
It’s just your imagination


39 posted on 08/10/2025 3:12:49 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: ConservativeMind

It’s a glitch in the Matrix!
Better dial out while we still can….


40 posted on 08/10/2025 3:17:58 PM PDT by sjmjax
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