Posted on 08/06/2025 10:18:29 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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Yep.
Yet the whole rest of the world can fill up only three 100K seat stadiums? Not even on the same day? And I'm supposed to think they take their sports seriously? LOL
dfwgator wrote: ““Always the dollars....always the f______ dollars.””
If it wasn’t for the dollars, there would be no NFL.
Some of that has to do with saturation. With 92 teams above the “professional” line (and at least that many below) in English football and most small (by American standards) cities having 2 teams, stadiums aren’t that big. But that there’s still tons of people at the games on Saturday. Birmingham is the 2nd largest city in England, and has about the population of Tucson, and has 2 teams with 30,000 seat stadiums. Comparing stadium sizes internationally is very apples and oranges.
If it wasn't for the fans, there would be no dollars for the NFL - so let's sh*t on the fans.
London alone has about 12 professional soccer teams. I’ve been to one stadium in London, Charlton Athletic, which just made it back to the Championship, and that’s about 22,000.
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Yeah. America thinks we’re into sports. But most of the rest of the world, especially England, is just saturated in sports, we’re amateurs. But we do spend a lot of money to make up for it.
One of things I really enjoy about the international scene is how they nuance the team names to make it seem like these teams aren’t in the same place. Sure there’s the occasional Man City and Man U, but more often than not if you don’t know the country really you don’t know. Like how none of those London teams have London in their name. If you don’t know where Chelsea or Queens Park or Tottenham are you’ll have no idea.
Or my team, Everton.
So is FOX - "FOX ONE". I just want to know how I can exclude espn from my you tube package and not pay for it.
LOL!
A Liverpool team... yes I looked it up. It’s cool how they do that.
But when you do the math of stadium size vs population most English cities can (and regularly do) fit around 25% of the population in the stadiums. So even though they don’t 100,000 seaters they’re still actually really big when you consider the size of the fishbowl they’re serving. And the cities just turn off during the games.
So let's look at population size. Birmingham, England has a population of 2.7 million people and fills, as you say, 2 stadiums of 30K seats. You'd think it'd be tough for much smaller 116K population size Tuscaloosa, AL to fill their 100K seat stadium (Bryant Denny Stadium for Alabama football). Obviously, most of the Bama fans going to the game come from outside of Tuscaloosa.
And it's not like the U.S. doesn't have plenty of saturation of American football with the NFL (32 teams) and other professional leagues like the UFL (merged with XFL and has 8 teams), GDFL (29 teams), and RPFL (12 teams). Combine that with 136 FBS college teams. To me that seems like tons of saturation of both professional and high college level teams (209 teams). Not to mention saturation from other sports like basketball, baseball, and hockey to spread out the fandom. As well as saturation of college fandom for lower level colleges (I attend my much smaller alma matter's games more often than I attend Bama's games.)
Yet even with all of that competition against big college football games, our one country can fill eight 100K seat stadiums on college football Saturdays.
1Old Pro wrote: “If it wasn’t for the fans, there would be no dollars for the NFL - so let’s sh*t on the fans.”
Only a socialist would consider the NFL charging for access as mistreating the fans.
Only a capitalist would consider overcharging by a monopoly an issue.
Generally, I don’t like the new stadiums, but I must admit, the new Everton stadium looks really good.
One of the things though now, if you go to an FC Barcelona or Real Madrid game, most of the people there will be tourists, who are willing to pay for the $200 tickets. They are pricing out the locals.
I have Sling TV during the fall and winter months for about $47 per month, primarily for football. I will definitely check into ESPN streaming when it comes available for just that reason.
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