[Carry_Okie]

Trump is walking a tightrope in Ukraine with both Zelenski and Putin being so intractable. The former is confident in the EU’s fear of Putin while he’s running out of men. Putin is confident in his ability to sell oil to run his grinder with a larger supply of meat and material.

[adorno]

Trump is walking a tightrope in Ukraine with both Zelenski and Putin being so intractable. The former is confident in the EU’s fear of Putin while he’s running out of men. Putin is confident in his ability to sell oil to run his grinder with a larger supply of meat and material.

Both Ukraine and Russia are now dependent countries. Ukraine depends on the EU and the U.S. for economic and military assistance. Russia depends on China and India and several others to keep the economy from totally collapsing, and Russia is also dependent on N.Korea and China and several others for military assistance.

When it comes to the military, Russia has lost the most, in manpower and in weaponry. Ukraine has lost a huge number of soldiers and equipment.
br> When it comes to Russia, it's no longer a military world power, other than in the number of nukes. When it comes to its economy, Russia is being kept alive by its oil sales, but without the oil, Russia's economy might as well be in collapse mode.

Ukraine can continue the fight as long as the U.S. and Europe keep up the military and economic aid. Russia can keep up the fight, but only as long as Putin remains hardheaded and in denial of the huge losses Russia has suffered.

[BroJoeK]

Carry_Okie: "Trump is walking a tightrope in Ukraine with both Zelenski and Putin being so intractable.
The former is confident in the EU’s fear of Putin while he’s running out of men.
Putin is confident in his ability to sell oil to run his grinder with a larger supply of meat and material."

adorno: "Ukraine can continue the fight as long as the U.S. and Europe keep up the military and economic aid.
Russia can keep up the fight, but only as long as Putin remains hardheaded and in denial of the huge losses Russia has suffered."

There have been many conflicting reports on the numbers of Russian and Ukrainian casualties.
In a war of attrition -- since Russians outnumber Ukrainians by at least 3 to 1 -- Ukrainians need to achieve three Russian casualties for every one of their own, and most reported numbers don't show 3:1 -- rather, 2:1 or even 1:1 are commonly reported.

But now there is Pres. Trump who recently tweeted (Truth Social) the following numbers for 2025, year-to-date:

1. 112,500 Russian forces killed.

2. 8,000 Ukrainian forces killed.

3. 14:1 ratio of Russians to Ukrainians killed YTD.

How accurate are Trump's numbers?
Nobody knows, but they strongly suggest that Ukraine is not at all losing Putin's War of Attrition.