Posted on 08/01/2025 7:17:15 AM PDT by DallasBiff
Def Leppard is gearing up for another Las Vegas residency, and frontman Joe Elliott admitted that narrowing down the setlist is “always a challenge.”
“We've kind of grown into a routine of what we like to call the A, B and C list,” the longtime frontman explained during an interview with Houston Life. “And your A list is your crown jewels, the ones that if you don't play them, you wouldn't get out the building alive. And then there's the B list of interesting stuff. And then the C list is, like, 'Oh, that's interesting. They haven't played that one in 40 years.'”
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You don’t need to be an expert to know that whoever wrote the song gets the residuals.
And QR does play it. But it’s the low point of the show for them. Maybe less since DuBrow died, he was the guy who hated the song the most.
The big hits can be a trap. It’s worse if it’s a song they don’t like.
Warrant and “Cherry Pie”, is a classic case. They hated that song, but they were forced to do it.
I enjoy going to see these old rockers, though I have not seen Def Leppard yet. Going to see Rod Stewart with Cheap Trick in a few weeks, and I can understand how they have to prioritize their set list. I wonder if they ever get tired of playing the same songs over and over, but then again, no matter what job you have, doing the same thing over and over is boring, but you get used to it. In that sense, accounting is probably no different than rock and roll!
Three songs get my slithering
Pour Some Sugar On Me
Getting Hot in Here by Nelly
Stray Cat Blues by Stones
All get her on the dance floor in lower Broad
Makes me happy and her concupiscent
It’s a good thing
Your age TB?
I’m 67 that’s a decent list
Well QR recorded the song, did Slade hold up a gun to their heads to record it. I doubt it.
Reminds me of a friend in high school, who was the biggest REO Speedwagon fan, always wore their T-Shirts (like Billy Madison).
Until Hi Infidelity came out. Then he stopped wearing the shirts, and when I asked why, he said, “I’m never listening to them again, they turned into a ‘chick band’”
Yeah, and well they should, that song’s terrible ;) There’s so many of these stories. It’s amazing how often the artist doesn’t like the big hit. Sometimes from the get. But eventually even if they like it to start 10, 15 years later, most artists get pretty tired of the every freaking night song.
I'm not a big Def Leppoard fan, but unless you live under a rock, yes you have. You just probably didn't know it was Def Leppard.
Here are some hotlinks to YouTube songs. I've cued them up to the 'hook' in each song so you don't have to suffer through the whole song to know if you've heard it.
If nothing else, you've heard them at sporting events or in commercials:
High N Dry (the original, not the abominable remixed version) is their best album.
Their manager loved it. And he refused to sign off on the album (their first major label album), and got the record company to back him if it wasn’t on there. So no Slade didn’t, but when the record label says “we don’t actually have to release this album you know” that’s pretty much a gun to the head. Of course from the company’s perspective they were right, record company revenue isn’t effected by who wrote a song, that’s just who they write the residual checks to, and the company made BANK.
I enjoyed rock & roll in my teens and 20s. But, then marriage, home ownership, and three kids came along, and I didn't listen to much music. Now that I'm retired, I love discovering new music on Spotify. Lots of contemporary folk, blues, Americana, female vocalists (200 songs), guitar (Al Petteway, Bill Frisell, Julian Lange, Jesse Cook, Ed Gerhard, Leo Kottke, Phil Cook), acoustic covers, "eclectic" (400 songs).
There's an amazing wealth of music out there that you just could not (affordably) discover in the old days. Most FM radio after the "underground" era (think KSHE in St. Louis, KPIG in Berkeley) largely went commercial and had the same old repetitive playlists. AM was execrable. You just couldn't afford to buy lots of albums on a whim where maybe you liked one song.
Mainstream junk like Taylor Swift makes me want to poke my eardrums out. I swear, the industry has one song and they just keep tweaking the machine.
The innovation and vitality of TRUE young musicians today amazes me. Most aren't going to get rich, but they make amazing music. Here's a sampler I picked at random:
For example, try "In the Long Run" by The Staves, three amazing sisters with incredible harmonization. Family members often achieve harmonies not possible by unrelated people. I've only listened to that one song by the ladies, but hope to be pleased by more of their work.
I LOVE Molly Mason and Jay Ungar for their soulful banjo & fiddle interpretations of American classics that evoke hoedowns in the Old West (and new songs in old style). "The Ookpik Waltz." Their talent is astounding.
And I discovered a Saharan (Africa) band named "Tinariwen". Their people are called "Tuaregs," lineage is nomadic Berbers who have suffered for centuries as their land has been stolen by many countries. Song "Tamiditin."
Then there's Hayden Pedigo and his instrumental song "Letting Go." His genres are American primitive guitar, Ambient music, Avant-garde music.
Mipso's "Down in the Water" is a nice song from the album "Old Time Reverie."
Isato Nakagawa's "Rainbow Chaser is really pleasant and fun guitar.
In Americana, Jake Xerxes Fussell has contemporary arrangements of lots of historical US tunes as well as new songs. See "Push Boat."
Also in American is the husband / wife duo Bela Fleck and Abigail Washburn. "Ride to U".
Before they teamed up, "Bela Fleck & the Flecktones" was great. There's the very popular "Big Country" which always reminds me of Montana just a few miles east of me here in Idaho.
Or Rhiannon Giddons, a classically trained musician who sings and plays fiddle and banjo. "Shake Sugaree"
I find it is uncommon for me to truly like a vocalist. Most cannot carry a tune and have awful voices, so I have a lot of instrumental music. But the vocalists I have liked I find to be truly exceptional.
So there you have it -- far more than you asked for. But hopefully these few selections give some folks some joy. I could export a list of groups in my playlists from Spotify, but it would be way too long to post here. But you get the idea -- almost no mainstream music.
I’m a Gen X, MTV Generation guy. Born in 66. While I love (have an apprecitaion) for the older bands, the late 70’s and early 80’s are my time. Def Leppard ruled on MTV.
And I discovered a Saharan (Africa) band named “Tinariwen”. Their people are called “Tuaregs,” lineage is nomadic Berbers who have suffered for centuries as their land has been stolen by many countries. Song “Tamiditin.”
Some amazing stuff, there.
Happy belated! Impressive list, but alas, I am not familiar with any of those.
If voice is what you are looking for, might I suggest Steve Perry?
The Hard Rock beginnings!
I liked these guys before any of them had any blonde hair.
It’s amazing how often the artist doesn’t like the big hit. Sometimes from the get.
Radiohead and “Creep”, also some to mind, but I certainly don’t blame them, since they have so many songs better than that one.
Rick Nelson experienced this, and after receiving boos at MSG, wrote Garden Party.
As for Freebird, I thought that was a song by Ronnie Van Zant and Lynnard Skynnard, after the plan crash.
Gwjack
Rick Nelson experienced this, and after receiving boos at MSG, wrote Garden Party.
Great song.
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