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Posted on 07/18/2025 3:02:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
On July 18, 1974, the former Beatle was officially told (again) to get out of the United States.
Considering the latter-day, beloved status that John Lennon enjoyed as a world citizen who promoted peace and harmony, it almost beggars belief that on July 18, 1974, the former Beatle was officially told (again) to get out of the United States.
That was the day newspapers reported that Lennon had been told by the Board of Immigration Appeals that he had until September 10 to leave the country or face deportation. Not exactly the news he wanted to hear, as he set to work at the Record Plant studio in New York, self-producing what would become his fifth studio album, Walls and Bridges.
The board dismissed Lennon’s petition to delay its decision until the conclusion of pending lawsuits that contested his deportation. But Leon Wildes, John’s lawyer, said that an appeal would be filed and it “would be years before the case is resolved.” Lennon’s wife, Yoko Ono, was granted permission to stay in the US as a permanent resident alien.
A threat to Nixon?
John’s high profile, anti-Vietnam War protests and peace campaigning had made him a thorn in the side of the US authorities for years. Although it now seems an absurd suggestion, President Richard Nixon actually believed at the time that they could damage his chances of re-election.
Lennon was challenging the order the previous year by a federal immigration judge that required him to leave the country because of his UK conviction in 1968 for possession of marijuana. The events surrounding his battle to stay in the States would become the subject of the 2006 film The US vs. John Lennon.
‘We are not unsympathetic’
The Board of Immigration voted by four to nil to issue the ruling, with one member not participating. “We are not unsympathetic to the plight of the respondent and others in a similar situation under the immigration laws, who have committed only one marijuana violation for which a fine was imposed,” they wrote. “Nevertheless, arguments for a change in the law must be addressed to the legislative, rather than the executive branch of government.”
As events turned out, by the time Lennon made his appeal on August 31, Nixon had resigned over the Watergate scandal, and his successor Gerald Ford showed little appetite to continue deportation proceedings. Walls and Bridges was duly released at the end of September, and the following year, the order was overturned by New York State Supreme Court judge Irving Kaufman.
“The courts will not condone selective deportation based upon secret political grounds,” said Kaufman in his ruling. He added: “Lennon’s four-year battle to remain in our country is a testimony to his faith in this American dream.” In 1976, John was finally given his green card.
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Just for the sake of argument, we correctly say the murder (or rape or carjaking or subway knifing and beating) would never have take place if the illegal alien had not been allowed across the border into the US by Biden, or if he had been deported. Impossible for the crime if the criminal were out of the US.
For John Lennon.
What if he had been deported. Or self-deported, fed up with the squalor and crime of New York City.
Then he would have been alive.
Huh?
He was Mr. World Peace, except for that wife beating thing.
“What if he had been deported,,, Then he would have been alive.”
That’s certainly an interesting what-if. Some of his less-than-healthy habits might have led to an early demise anyway. Or not. Yoko led a similar lifestyle, and is still among the living at 92, so who knows.
Imagine there’s no bread
It’s easy if you try
No tacos or hot sauce
Nothing cold or fried
Imagine all the people
Living in the gulags
Yeah-hah-eah
[Verse 2]
Imagine there’s no money (No money)
It isn’t hard to do (Not hard to do)
Nothing to eat or drink now (Not a crumb, not a drop now)
And no bacon too (There’s no bacon)
Imagine all the people (Imagine all the people)
Living short lifespans
Ooh-hoo-hoo
[Chorus]
You may say I’m a commie
But I’m not the only one (He’s not the only one)
And some day you will join us (You will join us)
Or we’ll shoot you in the face
[Verse 3]
Imagine no possеssions
Because all your stuff was redistributеd (That’s a good thing)
Lots of greed and hunger (I hope you like cat meat)
But seriously, please, can I have a potato? (Brian Stelter)
Imagine all the people (Imagine all the people)
Sharing all your stuff
Yeah-hee-ee
[Chorus]
You may say I’m a commie (Say that I’m a communist, but)
But I’m not the only one (The only one, the only one, no)
Did you say you don’t like that? (You don’t like that)
Then it’s the gulag for you, son
The Babylon Bee & Kyle Mann (Babylon Bee)
Did she take drugs that much? She was cheating on him their entire marriage, and tried to dump him to marry someone else. When he was killed, she had been having an affair with a man for several years, and Lennon was annoyed, because she gave the boyfriend some of his clothes. She moved that guy into their shared apartment the day after he was killed.
He was one of four of the GOAT band, no more, no less
(When he was killed, she had been having an affair with a man for several years, and Lennon was annoyed, because she gave the boyfriend some of his clothes. She moved that guy into their shared apartment the day after he was killed.)
I’ve never heard of that story. Who was the guy?
I think his name was Sam Havadtoy. She’s done a pretty good job shutting down any talk of it, but there are some books about it.
Let's try to keep it accurate. 😁
I will take responsibility for the breakdown in understanding.
Criminal crosses border and kills an American citizen.
If not allowed to enter the US they would not have been in the US to kill the person.
If my neighbor never goes to Nigeria then he won’t be there to be killed for being a Christian by the Nigerians.
Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the previously deported and re-entered man who shot and killed Kate Steinle was not supposed to be in San Francisco. He was a foreigner in our country.
“I chose to re-enter the country in San Francisco because it is a sanctuary city and I knew nothing would happen to me there.”
Thus, with proper border enforcement, Kate Steinle and her father that night on Pier 14 would not have been in danger because the alien would not have been in the US.
Yoko drugs.
She got John Lennon to try and get addicted to heroin.
In a session with journalists one asked her: “Do you and John have any form of daily exercise routine?”
Yoko: Well, we are both addicted to heroin. So keeping up with that counts as exercise, believe me.
Estimated net worth $700 Million. Has part of the song royalties.
I don't think you are telling the whole story. An illegal immigrant lived in our country and he assaulted Paul Pelosi. He will spend the rest of his life in jail/ Mr. Garcia-Zarate is free.
So, illegal immigrants are fine if they kill someone who is not important and not rich. But if they kill someone who is rich and powerful, they need to be punished.
Ok. Like Paul Harvey you told the rest of the story.
He basicly reputed that, and even praised Reagan right before he died.
You are quite correct. He was one of the greatest musical influences. Too bad he was a shyt in life otherwise. This is not uncommon amongst the music profession. Many of the blues greats were otherwise horrible people, for example.
Included there is child abuse, mugger of British sailors while in Germany and possibly he admitted to a murder while mugging.
Other than that...
Some people tend to focus on the lyrics of one or two songs to excoriate Lennon.
And his domestic violence, and so many other things.
But I remember him this way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjyj8qnqkYI&list=RD7nmxyYqNDp4&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kle2xHhRHg4&list=RD7nmxyYqNDp4&index=4
That's not to say he was some kind of saint. He treated his first wife and child terribly, and for a rich man, he got away with leaving them with practically nothing. He rarely saw that son, except when Yoko left him. However, unlike what people think, he was only a committed leftist for a few years. He even talked positively about Reagan for a few years.
There is some discrepancy about whether it was voluntary or not, but Yoko didn't see her child for decades. She was married twice before.
I am not saying her music was bad, but she doesn't really seem like a good person.
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