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To: maddog55

Agreed. In a generic setting, America should help out but Ukraine was a Soviet satellite since at least WW2 and it really is not winnable. We should not be in a proxy war.


5 posted on 07/18/2025 4:07:33 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Thank you, Trump, Musk, Leavitt....)
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To: OrangeHoof

Ukraine was ruled by Russia since the partition of Poland in the reign of Catherine the so-called great.


10 posted on 07/18/2025 4:13:57 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( )
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To: OrangeHoof

Can’t Win militarily I agree, however I do believe that history shows that internal conflict and economic problems can. 1991 shows that to be the case.

What happened to all the folks here who said that Russia was self sufficient. Financial war chest, stockpiles of equipment and ammunition was inexhaustible, and manufacturing capabilities sufficient to fight this war forever?

Now Russia is dependent on NK, Iran, and China for arms and manpower. Importing food and other basic necessities, war chest and Soviet legacy equipment rapidly depleting, and now needs a loan from China.

There are many ways to win a war


31 posted on 07/18/2025 4:41:36 AM PDT by blitz128
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