An illustration of some avid supporters for the war, including Blumenthal and Warren with Graham, as well as man-and-wife Nuland and "conservative" Kagan:
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Posted on 07/18/2025 3:48:37 AM PDT by RandFan
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Rep. MTG: The American people didn’t ask for this war. Or this debt. They don’t want to fund mass death in Ukraine. This is an unwinnable war. Over 1.5M killed or wounded. An entire generation of men wiped out. Americans want peace not murder.
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“Stopping Putin has cost exactly zero American active-duty soldiers. “
That is not a valid statement. NATO members (including USA) were bombed in a headquarter planning facility in Ukraine by Russia.
I am not here to argue this, it is pointless. The Ukraine was taken over by a State Dept/CIA color revolution, then turned into a nightmare.
NO ONE will win this WAR.
I am not here to argue with you. Point of perspective is dividing our Nation on this subject.
The Truth is not to be found.
Obama used to make these stupid straw-man arguments and so does Greene.
1-Americans can't stop this war. Trump tried negotiating with Putin for almost six months, demanding all the concessions from Ukraine. Result, Putin is still demanding Ukraines complete surrender.
2-As to debt- US is not funding Ukraine. NATO/Europe is paying for the weapons
3-As to mass death, its not for the US to decide. Putin must be forced to want peace and stop invading Ukraine
Same fake News Corp trash polls that consistantly had Trump losing the election by a landslide. One by TEN points.
All Murdoch properties are internationalist war-rags that, quite literally, make s**t up. Trump started a lawsuit on them yesterday... for making s**t up.
What the uniparty has burdened on us the last number of decades is unspeakable, foreign wars on another continent has to be on top of the list.
It seems that a lot of people forgot what they were ever against to begin with. It started off with concern over U.S. funding of Ukraine’s war effort. Now that it’s not costing the American tax payer they’ve moved on to “It’s costing lives” even though we’re sending patriot missiles designed to save lives.
An illustration of some avid supporters for the war, including Blumenthal and Warren with Graham, as well as man-and-wife Nuland and "conservative" Kagan:
--- They sucked us into the mess they made, and *still* are vying for regime change. Something like "oh, pffft, belch, potatoes and eggs are expensive, Putin will be gone any day now, and Russia will (stupidly) agree to ceasefire."
Neocons never learn - just move to their next humanitarian dumpster fire.
I respectfully disagree now.
The should have cut a deal with Trump when he was fighting with little z to end the war. Russia would have had good terms and could protect it’s borders. Vlad the invader has invaded once to many times and failed to negotiate when the cards were good.
It was unwinnable until the Russians brought in NK reinforcements and refused to cease fire or negotiate. That will trigger the EU to respond with people, money, weapons, aircraft, ect. This war will end, but now Russia will end up losing territory in the end, IMHO. They will lose Territory in the East and in the West. They began as a dominant world power and will leave broken and as a Chinese puppet state. Huge mistake.
Can’t Win militarily I agree, however I do believe that history shows that internal conflict and economic problems can. 1991 shows that to be the case.
What happened to all the folks here who said that Russia was self sufficient. Financial war chest, stockpiles of equipment and ammunition was inexhaustible, and manufacturing capabilities sufficient to fight this war forever?
Now Russia is dependent on NK, Iran, and China for arms and manpower. Importing food and other basic necessities, war chest and Soviet legacy equipment rapidly depleting, and now needs a loan from China.
There are many ways to win a war
You don’t know any Trump backers who support giving arms to Ukraine? That’s funny. All you have to do is look on this board to find them. There are plenty of us.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Please stop with Russian talking points.
Both sides tried to influence Ukraine, Putin even tried poisoning a Ukraine president, but its silly to argue Ukraine wanted to join the EU because of the CIA. People in Ukraine travel, everyone sees the wealth in the EU vs the poverty in Russia.
These people were not mind controlled by the CIA, they like most people wanted a better life, thats why they wanted to join the EU and not Russia
I think you’re right.
lol well until the break up of the Soviet Union, since you like historical facts.
Does history begin at Catherine’s rule?
Btw , ruled doesn’t mean a part of🤔
Right, Korean War was unwinnable so according to Greene we should have let the communists conquer ALL of Korea. Makes sense
I have seen no evidence of this. The most recent American citizen to die in Ukraine was 62-year-old. He was not a soldier.
Regardless, if we say we want NATO fighting this war, then you should be happy NATO is fighting this war.
“You don’t know any Trump backers who support giving arms to Ukraine? That’s funny. All you have to do is look on this board to find them. There are plenty of us.”
I specifically said, “know”. I don’t personally KNOW you. I’m referring to people I actually KNOW, and TRUST — all of whom are America First.
“End the WAR.”
Are you writing letters to Putin?
Or calling or emailing him or people that know him with this message?
Trump’s doing everything he can think of to come through on this campaign promise but is obviously, and much to his chagrin, coming up short,
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