Posted on 07/10/2025 7:10:05 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Dean Cain, who played the Man of Steel in the 1990s TV series Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, has claimed the new Superman movie directed by James Gunn is “woke”.
Cain, a vocal supporter of Donald Trump, was speaking to TMZ and said: “How woke is Hollywood going to make this character? How much is Disney going to change their Snow White? Why are they going to change these characters [to] exist for the times?”
Cain was responding to comments by Gunn published on Friday in the Times, in which the director said: “Superman is the story of America … An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country, but for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost.”
Cain added: “We know Superman is an immigrant – he’s a freaking alien … The ‘American way’ is immigrant friendly, tremendously immigrant friendly. But there are rules … You can’t come in saying: ‘I want to get rid of all the rules in America, because I want it to be more like Somalia.’ Well that doesn’t work, because you had to leave Somalia to come here ... There have to be limits, because we can’t have everybody in the United States. We can’t have everybody, society will fail. So there have to be limits.”
Superman has become the focus of criticism from some rightwing commentators, including Fox News’ host Jesse Watters, who suggested that Superman “fights for truth, justice, and your preferred pronouns” and that gang moniker MS-13 was “superimposed” on his cape.
At the film’s premiere on Monday, Gunn sought to defuse any controversy saying: “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”
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Roger Friedman said, despite Gunn’s annoying immigrant quip, that the film itself is not woke at all.
Superman is a “dreamer”? A DACA? Nice. A toddler who was unknowingly taken to the American border by a “coyote” and holding a note saying “Take me somewhere to live where the taxpayers will feed, shelter and educate me. My original home has been trashed.” Nice job on the movie’s plot bonehead. But you stole it from somebody else.
If it doesn’t say “Truth, Justice and The American Way”, then it is woke.
So how many times is it now that Hollywood has rebranded the Superman now? 10?
For me it’s all been down hill since George Reeves anyway.
“If it doesn’t say “Truth, Justice and The American Way”, then it is woke”
Not sure what “the American way” means any more.
I keep seeing all these people justifying Gunn’s tweets in the past as “jokes in bad taste” and recently, I saw a listing of the content of those tweets on FR, which I cannot now find.
However, when I read them, they were appalling to the point of horror. They weren’t “jokes” or “in bad taste” as many people describe them. They were pointedly graphic and both pederastic or pedophilic in nature.
I couldn’t believe he was employed by anyone including Disney. Those posts beggared belief.
I will not watch anything this person Gunn has contact or involvement with, never mind any Disney production.
Does anyone else recall seeing these Tweets that were deleted by Gunn in the past? I wish I had archived them as I often do with things like that.
“ Not sure what “the American way” means any more.”
Thus, we have to make America great again!
“I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”
I guess you don’t have to be literate to make a movie.
bttt
he was adopted by the Kents
US citizens
Maybe I’ll watch it on TV, which should be pretty soon, considering what its theater audiences might be. I just watched “Man of Steel,” and “Justice League” on TV.
In the 1950’s, I never missed a Superman TV show, and I read all the superhero comic books. I preferred the DC comics over Marvel. Archie comics briefly had two superheroes, the Fly, and the Jaguar.
They all had bad reputations among the powers that were, but they definitely improved my reading abilities and vocabulary.
I liked the Superman TAS and later Justice League cartoons a lot.
Batman TAS got me to where I would watch the superhero stuff at all.
On the other hand, the energy produced by Walt Disney spinning in his grave may be enough to power DisneyWorld and DisneyLand.
And “those limits” occur at the LEGAL immigration office. Ignoring the issue of illegal aliens vs those who wait in line is how you can tell this is woke crappola.
If y’all are gonna update a character for “the modern audience” yah have to insert the necessary verbiage — Like illegals are a problem.
Well, other than tokenizing: Mr. Terrific is now black. The only saving grace there is I love the actor (Edi Gathegi).
I’m betting WB doesn’t do a Disney (let us add that all-powerful word of warning: “yet”). I’m down for seeing this one once it hits Tubi.
Same. Aint paying theater prices on it.
I think I may pass on wokerman, but maybe I should see for myself and decide.
Superman: An American Raised in Kansas
When Superman first appeared in Action Comics #1 in 1938, America wasn’t grappling with border policy or multiculturalism. It was staring down something more existential: a collapse in fertility.
The Great Depression had driven the U.S. birthrate to historic lows. Total fertility had fallen to barely replacement level. Millions of American families had delayed marriage, postponed childbirth, or quietly resigned themselves to childlessness. In economic terms, the United States was confronting the early signs of a demographic recession—slower household formation, sagging demand for schools, and fears that a graying nation might not sustain its economic dynamism.
The decline in fertility had started decades earlier and continued through boom and bust, peacetime and war. By 1938, the trend appeared irreversible. Economists warned of stagnation. Schools were half-empty. America was getting older, slower, and less vigorous.
At the time, social scientists assumed the decline would continue indefinitely. The prevailing wisdom held that fertility would keep falling as societies modernized. Even leading economists and demographers believed America had entered a new phase of slow decline—aging, depopulating, and gradually surrendering its dynamism. Yet within a decade, the unexpected happened: birthrates surged. The Baby Boom rewrote America’s demographic future. And in retrospect, Superman looked less like a symbol of despair and more like a herald of rebirth.
Into this landscape fell a baby from the sky.
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