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To: fidelis

I hate to ask this and I nearly did to a Christian call-in show——

God presents us with many things he shares with us and wants us to have. The types such as the “think on these things” in Philippians. Love. Peace.

When it comes to revenge, he reserves it for himself alone.

Does this mean revenge is the ultimate happy place element of the universe and we aren’t worthy of it like he is?

Or something he doesn’t us to suffer through and he’ll take over. Or we aren’t qualified to decide on true justice since we lack the infinite intelligence and knowledge beyond time that he alone possesses.


39 posted on 07/09/2025 11:24:02 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: frank ballenger

You answered your own question, Frank:

“...we aren’t qualified to decide on true justice since we lack the infinite intelligence and knowledge beyond time that he alone possesses.”


62 posted on 07/10/2025 5:54:31 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (Jesus plus anything at all = idolatry & spiritual adultery.)
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To: frank ballenger
Or we aren’t qualified to decide on true justice since we lack the infinite intelligence and knowledge beyond time that he alone possesses.

I haven't thought deeply on this, but my understanding is the option you offered above. I would add to that, that not only does God surpass us in intelligence and knowledge of all things, he is also dispassionate and can make judgments that are separated from human emotion and selfish motivation. Human vengeance is a different than justice as it includes personal motivation based on emotion (i.e., anger). God's prohibition against us taking vengeance may be one of his ways of keeping us from sinning and to prevent us from potentially committing injustice.

67 posted on 07/10/2025 9:36:48 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: frank ballenger
Or something he doesn't us to suffer through and he'll take over. Or we aren't qualified to decide on true justice since we lack the infinite intelligence and knowledge beyond time that he alone possesses.

Yes. :)

But God said vengeance not justice. We are suppose to seek justice and seek after justice.

Someone kills your child, accident or intentional. It is justice to want that person punished. Vengeance would be to go kill his kid. People who quote, "An Eye for an Eye", rarely understand that it was only applied in a certain very specific circumstance and that it was a limiter.

If someone hit a pregnant woman so she went into labor early and mother and baby were ok it was a fine. If there was any other damage to mother or child that was when an tit for tat came in up to and including the person's life. And that was where it stopped. You could not go demand the death of the perpetrator's family or burn down his home or anything else. Your limit was the death of the person who did the assault.

70 posted on 07/10/2025 1:01:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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