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How Has The Climate Changed Since America’s First 4th of July?
TIME ^ | July 3, 2025 | by Jeffrey Kluger

Posted on 07/03/2025 6:10:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Founding Fathers who gathered in Philadelphia to adopt the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776 picked a nice day to do their work. It was a Thursday, and the temperature at 6:00 a.m. was 68°F, going up to a warmish but still pleasant 76°F at 1:00 p.m., according to daily records kept by Virginia’s Thomas Jefferson.

The planetary metabolism at the time was set more for such balmy days than it was for the increasingly suffocating summers we experience in the 21st century. It was in 1867 that scientists would first define the epoch that includes the late 1700s as the Holocene—a period that began 11,700 years ago and is still ongoing.

“It was quite a bit colder [than average] in the 17th century,” says Kyle Harper, professor of classics and letters at the University of Oklahoma and a faculty member at the Santa Fe Institute. “The 18th century is a little less extreme, but it’s still part of the Little Ice Age. The 19th century starts to get even colder for a little bit. And then, of course, it turns around.”

That turnaround—a wholesale reshaping of our world’s climate—has been attributable in large measure to humans, and it’s what makes today’s Independence Day so different from the one 249 years ago.

“What does one degree mean? What does two degrees mean?” asks Harper. “Two degrees, when you’re talking about a global average, is a massive change. And beyond that, you talk about four degrees—it’s really like a different planet.”

Nearly 250 years ago, a small group of men on a little patch of that planet raised the flag of a new country. Today, that country—and the 194 others around the globe—face an existential peril the American colonists could not have foreseen.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hoax; propaganda; socialism

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1 posted on 07/03/2025 6:10:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That turnaround—a wholesale reshaping of our world’s climate—has been attributable in large measure to humans,

Not what Time was saying in the late 1970s / early 1980s. But I guess being Time means never having to explain your past inconsistent articles.

2 posted on 07/03/2025 6:19:39 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
But I guess being Time means never having to explain your past inconsistent articles.

We need to stop making the mistake that the media is in business of selling (accurate) news. They are in the business of hype and selling a product.

3 posted on 07/03/2025 6:22:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, brother. They never stop.


4 posted on 07/03/2025 6:23:31 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I was there when they said we would soon all freeze. So I bought a really warm coat, hat and gloves. Then they said we would all burn up with all the hot weather so I bought a bunch of Speedos and sunscreen. I wish they would make up their mind so I wouldn’t have such wardrobe confusion.


5 posted on 07/03/2025 6:24:55 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Time must hire the bottom of every class just to be sure they never have executive competition. These girls are dumb, really, rally dumb.


6 posted on 07/03/2025 6:25:47 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: shelterguy

Unless we see a picture of you in the Speedo, it never happened.


7 posted on 07/03/2025 6:27:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The sea level on the Atlantic Coast has risen two feet since 1776.


8 posted on 07/03/2025 6:27:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing inflames unrest in the delusional, and nothing inflames unrest in the evil, like TRUTH.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Source: Geology.Utah.Gov

9 posted on 07/03/2025 6:28:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Little Ice Age was still in effect in 1776. Ended around 1850.


10 posted on 07/03/2025 6:30:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Savage Beast

The sea level on the Atlantic Coast has risen two feet since 1776.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level


11 posted on 07/03/2025 6:31:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: CodeToad
Time must hire the bottom of every class just to be sure they never have executive competition.

Journalism school is full of students who can't do math.

12 posted on 07/03/2025 6:31:58 AM PDT by FatherofFive (we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They’ve forgotten about Adapt and Overcome but now they think they’re God and can change the planet ,LOL


13 posted on 07/03/2025 6:34:21 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can you work at a strip club and go to Heaven?

Can you work at Time and go to Heaven?


14 posted on 07/03/2025 6:35:43 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: MtnClimber

Suggests that our sun is a variable star.We have better tech and will have more info in the future so I think we could come up with survive and thrive strategies should the sun reduce its outputs again.


15 posted on 07/03/2025 6:36:09 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Opinionated Blowhard; shelterguy; Huskrrrr
“The sun is not a totally constant star,” says Harper. “The power of the solar dynamo itself is changing.”

The article actually acknowledges the existence of one of the huge engines changing climate. Otherwise, this article is typical.

Turn a blank sheet of paper sideways. On the left write “weather event” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the right side. On the far right, write the words "manmade climate change” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the circle.

Is there not a large blank space in the middle? Have you ever seen a story which fills in this area? Have you ever read a story that uses words like sun and ocean, which are the two enormous engines determining temperature? Cannot the stories that you have seen be inserted into one or the other circles?

I will submit there is no evidence of man-made global warming because no adherent to the popular mythology will acknowledge the existence of the sun and oceans. All I have ever seen are fraudulent to accurate comments on weather events or physical phenomenon involving temperature followed by an assertion man-made global warming is the cause.

In the hard sciences of Math and Physics, the earth’s climate is known as an open system, meaning all influencers are probabilistic and not deterministic. Any assertions must be less than certain, but we are always treated to infallibility statements like those for the boiling point of water. Popular reasoning requires a complete disconnect between events and conclusions and is no more rigorous than Middle Age alchemy.

I have yet to find any article which attempts to measure the influence of the sun and ocean and then ascribe an increment to human activity. It was only since the late 70’s that it was possible to attempt to confirm changes in the sun’s radiance independent of earth. Without a rigorous solution involving those two enormous engines, models created provide outcomes no more elegant than what is left behind when a brand new puppy is turned loose in a house decorated with white carpets and white furniture.

16 posted on 07/03/2025 6:38:05 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: MtnClimber

Indeed !

Averaged climates are such nonsensical bunk. They are easily subjective to mathematical manipulation by dishonest counters.

The Sahara used to be a lush landscape before 4500 years ago. Reported due to the change rub the Earths ‘angle of dangle’


17 posted on 07/03/2025 6:39:59 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hard to tell about 1776, but we know that it was once much warmer at the poles, based on the presence of coal deposits and warm blooded fossils of huge annimals there.


18 posted on 07/03/2025 6:53:37 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: FatherofFive

J-Schools graduates only the second to the bottom of all test applications, next to Ed School grads.


19 posted on 07/03/2025 7:02:26 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

https://img.ifunny.co/images/5ff38fd03863bf95abc29adfc28c3b33932a1c814eca91d4b5699edbd8ecbe1f_1.jpg


20 posted on 07/03/2025 7:08:49 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood )
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