Weak Carney betrays Canadian electorate on only thing that put him into office

Mark Carney leaned into his past as an ice hockey player during his successful campaign to become Canadian prime minister.

“Elbows up,” became his battle cry and his promise to the electorate that he was ready to defend the country against Donald Trump and the American president’s aggressive moves on their country.

It was one of the issues that turned around the election, propelling the Liberal candidate (and former ice hockey goal tender) to a come-from-behind victory. Voters decided that Mr Carney would do more to stand up to Washington than a conservative candidate, Pierre Poilievre, who leaned into comparisons with the America First president south of the border.

Mr Trump’s playbook is obvious by now. Double down, double down, double down and simply keep going until the other guy folds.

He doubled down with Canada on Friday. After agreeing a 30-day deadline for trade talks between the two countries during cordial meetings at the G7 summit two weeks ago, Mr Trump made his move.

Well that shouldn’t be too difficult. They have easy material to work with.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Difficult or not, it is the mark of tyranny.

And how does that sit with a opulist conservative Presidemt.

Trump would like to see Carney’s NWO-Davos loving ass in a vice as much as possible.I wish our president God speed.

For 50 years AMerica has allowed no tariffs to Canadina goods and produce entering America. Canada under successive liberal governments failed or refused to fund its armed forces, refused to build naval vessels, and opened Canada to massive Muslim immigration.Now Canada has 1.3 million Muslims, making sure that the Jews number only 330,000 across Canada.Trudeau was letting in thousands of Iranuans who brought the plague of CPvid from the ME.Yet he did not relent in their immigration.

NOw this great economic arrangement enjoyed by Canada in the past alliwed Canada to have a giovernment funded medica system. So Canadians , not spending for their military, not allowing US goods tariff free reciprocally into Canada , subsidized their socialist society on the back of the USa and too boot, expect the USA to defend them militarily for free.IS there much wonder thagt Presodent Trump is calling Carney and his running dogs on not only their false lucre, but allso on theoir bergeoning sense of smug superiority.

Canadians who are in the know are a minority but a vocal one, They cheer on president TRump to draw Canada out of its draconian , backward, protected economy.Carney must abandon the protection of the liberal party donors from indistry who have been supporting the livberals for years tio protect them from competition from US prodicersm so they can life the hogh life based pon false economy. all while abandonog the people of Canada who would benefit greatly from lowered consumer prices from competition and free trade.

Trudeau , Carney and the whole lot have held Canada back. A retarded ideology with a retarded socialist goal to feather the elites of Canada ( the nobility) and screw the Canadian people.

I guarantee you that Canadians are starting to wake op to what their horrible liberal government is doing. They have had enough of their censorship of foreign journalists on line, and the banning of semiautomatic firearms owned by Canadians for over 70 years, while allowing 1st nation Canadians to run guns across the US Canada border whichi are sold to urban Canadian gangs in Montreal, Vancover and Torointo, its a billion dollar business for the Indians who have reservations straddling the US /Canada border,crossing at will without interference.

You think Canadians are easy material to work the hoodwink on?? You may be right, but not for much longer, thanks to President Donald J Trump.The same may be said for Americans I remind....when America elected Joe Biden the worst president in history.

I agree with that. At the same time, I suspect Donald Trump does not understand the basis of Canadian sovereignty and rejects it in the name of manifest destiny, a philosophy which makes sense to me (as a less than enthusiastic Canadian) as it would be in everyone’s interest to unite the two countries. But at the same time, I am a realist and I know that this point of view is very much in the minority in Canada. Most people who realize in youth that they see things this way just find a way to acquire American residence and then citizenship. They don’t take the suicidal position of arguing for this in public in Canada. But nowadays it would be even more dangerous to do so given the hostility that has been generated against Trump.

We won’t be seeing political union of course and as many here have correctly pointed out, it would not be in your own interests to have so many additional Democrats with deep roots in globalist and socialist thought. This tendency totally dominates all politics in Canada except for the populist part of the Conservative base which is better represented by the breakaway Peoples’ Party than the established Conservative Party. What complicates this now is that the Conservatives have swung hard right recently and allowed their most populist MPs to run the party platform. The vested interests who fund this party are watching silently, whether out of self-interest (perhaps this would work out) or fear (when the time comes, we’ll reinstate the centrists who are basically go-slow Liberals).

Complicated, and bound to create a firestorm against an activist administration taking on globalism on every front. If the Democrats or a moderate Republican return to power, then all that fades into the background and interests become more similar, hence deals can easily be made. They are not great deals benefitting a lot of people outside cultural elites in both countries.

In my own case, I never really found it feasible to cross the border and I took the other road, fighting the globalist tendencies from within. That has gone nowhere really, quite a few of us have done this, and formed the Peoples’ Party which cannot gain effective traction against the Conservatives always drifting slowly towards our point of view and thus holding on to the half of their vote that would gladly defect if they thought we could win elections.

That same attitude is even stronger in Alberta and leads to a desire for independence. The problem for Alberta is that they need control of access to the west coast to implement most of their economic vision. A substitute would be political union with the U.S. and thereby directing all their resource flow south instead of west.

Canada won’t let go of their cash cow Alberta very easily, and the matter has not been tested by referendum. I suspect some Albertans are in a wait and see position, either Carney might be sensible enough to satisfy in the short term (unlike the departed clown prince), or, the Conservatives might win a federal election around 2028 or 2029. If they could hold on for 2-3 terms and remain populist, that would kill off western separatism. But that would require a massive shift of opinion in other parts of Canada.

It’s all very murky at the moment. Carney is posing as a centrist who is open to a return to sensible economics. He cancelled the carbon tax and now he’s cancelled the proposed digital services tax. The first of these moves has made him very popular because gas prices are now back to 2005 levels across Canada and there’s no longer any point in Canadians near the border crossing into America to get cheaper gas. In fact, in WA the gas works out to being 5-10% more expensive now than in our local gas stations. This is a first. Carney has stated that he doesn’t see the point of taxation that is then returned to part of the population (that’s how the carbon tax worked here under Justin Trudeau, the poorer half of Canadians got a quarterly payment, and the government scooped a considerable fraction of the tax and put it into general revenues under the laughable premise that this was “fighting the climate emergency.”

Anyway, I believe we will see improvements in Canadian politics eventually, somebody is bound to come along who can like Trump market the latent discontent against elites. The Conservatives did a fairly effective job of that until Trump sort of blew them up by enabling Carney to pull a rabbit out of the hat and beat them in April. This was not widely foreseen before Trudeau left office. I don’t know if this was a deliberate strategy for Trump, or just an example of unintended consequences. Conservative populist leader Poilievre unwisely chose the wrong door (becoming a me too Trump basher) and showed he wasn’t reading the crowd very well (his own crowd) nor perhaps was he who he said he was.

The PPC leader Max Bernier is a good person and a very capable politician but you would have to be Terry Fox, Gordie Howe and Gordon Lightfoot rolled into one to gain any traction against the conspiracy of silence that forces our party to operate as if it were a political science project known only to the students at one university. We easily got to 3-5 per cent of the vote (the former Libertarian vote) but beyond that, traction is difficult, a lot of conservatives won’t leave the party of their long experience even knowing they are being led around by the nose. It’s an attitude I don’t fully understand but I suppose it’s just an underlying insecurity, in a harsh environment — Canada is not like the sun belt where economic decisions don’t matter too much because you could survive with very little all year anyway. If Canada “gets it wrong” we freeze to death. That’s the underlying reality. And so far, while our political economy looks ridiculous to many observers outside and inside the country, the elites have not “got it wrong” so badly that people suffered. They might not have prospered as much as they could have prospered. But that’s not something anyone experiences so they don’t realize it.

Well, its just so bad no one will do anything. Look at what happened to Tamara Litch, a true populist who wqs railroaded into obscurity by tyranny.The world, and Presidet Trump witnessed a birth of a populist political movement in Canada , aborted. Trudeau was so afraid of them he refused to meet......he had them classiffied as a terrorist organization and seized all their donations raised on social edia fund raising platforms. and then seized the donor lit , and froze donor bank accounts. All that stopped these libera fascists was the Bank of Canada who said “STOP”to Trudeau, because there was an initial run on the banks of Canada as Canadians removed all of their cash from banks , transferred it to the USA or converted it to other negotiable instruments untouchable by the government. People were puttinh their savings into safety deposit boxes. Trump witnessed all of it.Trump will take the Liberal Paryt of Canada to the wood shed, until Carney allows Canadian markets to open to US goods in free trade.If not, it is in TRumps interest to allow Canada to devolve into a third world nation ruled in tyranny by whacko ideologues, whose
religious catechism includes the term: “ Carbon neiutral oil.”What idiocy.

We know what the Liberals are made of. And we know that the Conservatives act consistently to knuckle under to the power of the Davos crowd.
BUt most Americans, and I also include president Trump in this, do not understand the monopolistic histiry of the Canadian economy, now held back by it. The HUdsons Bay Company had such a monomoly and ast week it went tits up. The only way such monopolies can survive tday is to openly compete on the world market.

THe whole idea that the FAMILY COMPACTS OF YESTERYEAR ARE DEAD IS AN ERRONEOUS HISTORICAL SUPPOSITION.They are very much alive and in control of the funding of the Liberal and Conservative Parties across the nation. The Irving Conglomorate in Atlantic Canada is but one of many.

The Freedom Convoy movement was a spontaneous populist movement. It is not yet dead, it is simmering.If it can again manifest in rebirth, Canadians can throw off the stinking chains of elite noble class draconian idiocy, and assume an economy which is free and favorable to middle class Canadians , while the Family Compacts are forced to compete with tariff free American produce and industrial products.

The key to doing that? President TRump and the CIA.I want to see them make it happen.If China can get away with destruction of Canada’s electoral system, it is much better to have the USA do it instead.Liberal tyranny must end in Canada....its actually horrible...witness Carney’s slick payment of 41 million to the CBC shortly after he was elected through CBC censorship of opposition to the Liberals, while Carney , so laughingly, recently against the Canadian flag flying of the populist Freedom Convoy, Carney wrapping himself in the same flag under a faux patriotism while using the CBC to fan the anti USA sentiments of Canadian voters?It was classic Joseph Goebbels.

Read the history of Canada’s Family Compacts, who are alive an well even today.. Canada will never be free until they are banished into the purifying cauldron of competitive economy.

https://canadahistoryproject.ca/1840/1840-06-family-compact.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Compact

I agree not a lot was done to help the convoy people but some of us did fund-raise and assist with legal defense in various ways. They were supported by thousands of people but at the same time, they faced an 80% disapproval situation driven by mass media reporting.

All aspects of Canadian politics boil down to this reality: about three quarters or four fifths of the population are basically opposed to principled conservatism, and about one third will support fiscal conservatism, so any conservative party has to juggle this discontinuity in order to get elected. If they narrow their focus to issues that drive other nationalist populist movements, they walk into a guaranteed electoral holocaust. Some rather naive people say well if they offered the people a real choice, they would get more votes ... that has been tried and the reverse is true. But don’t confuse the mass mind with my mind, these are two different entities. I don’t derive my values from public opinion tendencies in Canada. When you get to Alberta the situation is more favorable and principled conservatism can win an election (and has done so). In BC the renewed Conservative Party is attempting the same feat, and came fairly close last year, losing by less than 5% of the vote and by three seats in the legislature. One wrong move by the socialists and they will be out of power. In Ontario, however, a watered down ‘progressive’ conservatism is the only marketable form, and so it’s go-slow globalism for the Ontario government. This is probably true also of most other provinces east of Alberta. Saskatchewan is a little more polarized but essentially the politics there are similar to Alberta. Manitoba has a tendency to support socialism because most of its population is in two large cities.

There is more or less that already, Rebel News is a youtube based channel, it used to have some presence in cable TV markets too. It’s run by libertarian Ezra Levant whose politics are basically identical to the freedom convoy.

Also there’s a well-attended forum like this one active in Canada (Small Dead Animals), check it out.

There used to be Free Dominion, a clone of Free Republic, started in 2001 but it was killed off by multiple lawsuits and a drift away of members who didn’t want to spend thousands on helping us defend ourselves in court (which we did with some partial successes in 2013 to 2015).

Just for information, the term ‘Dominion’ in Canada is considered retro like the Red Ensign flag we used to have before the Trudeau Liberal Party logo flag we adopted in 1965.

Canada Day was known as Dominion Day until then too. The ‘Dominion of Canada’ was a legal term adopted in 1931 (also for Australia, New Zealand and South Africa) which were granted nearly complete autonomy from the British monarchy in the Westminster Conference in 1931. Prior to that the laws and constitutions of these four nations allowed some interference from the monarch’s representative, the Governor General, although in practice there were very few occasions when any actual interference took place.

Canada became a fully independent member of the British Empire in 1867. From 1840 to 1867 it was granted much wider powers of self-government but the four or five colonies did not have a federated status. Ontario used to be known as Upper Canada, and Quebec as Lower Canada. These two plus Nova Scotia and New Brunswick signed on to become Canada after conferences in 1864 to 1866, the capital was placed in Ottawa which was just a small village (Bytown) back then, as a compromise since Toronto, Kingston and Montreal were all in a fight to become the capital.

Prince Edward Island stayed out of the Confederation until 1873 and by then Manitoba had already been carved out of what used to be a larger Northwest Territory, and joined the union in 1871. BC also joined shortly after Manitoba. Alberta and Saskatchewan, similar to Arizona and New Mexico, were not recognized as provinces until the early 20th century. That pushed the N.W.T. back beyond the 60th parallel and the Yukon Territory was separated from it. Later, Nunavut (the Inuit homeland) was carved out of the N.W.T. which still exists as the Mackenzie valley and western arctic islands. These three territories are self-governing and have limited oversight from Ottawa nowadays, back in the 1950s and 1960s they were run pretty much by Cabinet committees. There is no real push to gain provincial status because it wouldn’t change anything under our arrangements anyway (without an elected Senate).

So the only other detail is that Newfoundland and Labrador remained a crown colony all the way to 1949 before a referendum there made them the tenth province of Canada. Quebec has always claimed the territory of Labrador and Nunavut now claims part of northern Quebec where Innuit people live (northern Ungava).

There is no particular reason why Canada should be a more liberal country than the United States, and in the past it probably wasn’t so. Trudeau did a lot of the work to convince people to see Canada as essentially a ‘peoples’ republic’ and the Liberals have always tried to finesse their considerable power into that of a one-party state. What prevents that is that Conservative support never drops much below 35% and the further left NDP would join in opposition to any real one-party state changes to the constitution or laws. Also a lot of Liberals across the country are not even aware that their party has these tendencies, they tend to view every election as a sort of equal toss up between red and blue, not realizing that blue is really just about red (our red and blue are of course the opposite of your red and blue in political terms, as is the case in Britain also). A ‘red Tory’ in Canadian politics is a socially liberal and fiscally conservative person like Mitt Romney or George W. Bush. A ‘blue liberal’ is a Liberal who does not support woke politics or anti-resource economics. There’s some indication that Mark Carney may be a blue liberal and that the Trudeau ouster was just the backroom boys deciding the drift left had to be terminated.

As to support of globalism, that is a slightly different thing, because it includes certain spiritual concepts perhaps reaching as far as Satanic influence into the political realm. Canada is a largely anti-clerical state like France, especially Quebec. Canadians tend to react very negatively to evangelicals or Catholics becoming active in politics, it was Stephen Harper’s achilles heel and he always tried to portray himself as not that activist but it was widely known that he attended church and most of our political class are atheists. Church attendance in Canada is probably about half of what it is across the U.S., and only in Alberta is there a majority attending.

I believe the urban legend that Canadians don’t tip is partly a misreading of a code word ‘Canadian’ to mean black American in regards to not leaving tips, and partly just a made up canard. Perhaps Quebec visitors to Florida have a bad reputation in this regard, I don’t know. But Anglo Canadians leave tips. I do and so do others I have been stateside with. We leave tips in Canada so why not in America also? A good tip here is considered to be 18-20 per cent and the standard is now 15% (used to be 10%).

There are a lot of stories going around about Canada which are apparently just made up nonsense unsupported by any actual evidence. For example, our country houses large number of Mexican cartels (we’re on the receiving end just like you). There are squads of Chinese soldiers training to invade America near the border (nobody here has ever seen any evidence of this). We are a communist dictatorship (I mean come on, where’s the gulag?) when actually this is more or less a larger version of the northeastern U.S. plus the Pacific Northwest with Montana in between.

I think there should be some standard of proof required for some of these absurd allegations.

No, with the demise of Free Dominion, th main avenue t bring back a populist message to the People was lost.

Its ludicrous now to call Canada a “Democracy.” Australians are on much the same boat.Canadians are simply ill informed, propagandized , and maleable as an electorate.

We have become the laughing stock of the free world as smug socialist who establish their social medicine system and our defence on the back of the US economy. NOw that is no longer possible and Canadians do not understand that...horribly ill informed. Canada must open its markets to competition or go the way of places like Zimbabwe.Its really simple. Carney represents the retrograde political force that will keep Canada backward, and keep the family compact elites of Canada wealthy monopolists. Now we will become a 3rd world nation with a 3rd world nation economy,a disappearing middle class, no real military ( only 100,000 regular military in a nation of 37 million, and maybe 10 in service naval vessels to defend the longest contiguous coastline in the world.).

What could possibly go wrong?And when it does,Canadians just might have enough time to wake up and do something about it. BUt so far, being smug, decrying Trump and Americans, and savoring the increasingly scarce lucre of a socialist system of government.

When leftists in Canada start telling the Canadian electorate not to believe their own eyes, much as the Biden administration did for 4 years to Americans, we will see what happens.Canada must crash and burn (and it surely will), before it can join the modern world economy by sharing Canada’s markets freely. Meanwhile we must tolerate a backward economy with backward ideologues holding Canada , and Canadians, back in the dark ages while a golden age blooms in the USA.

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