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Self-driving JTA vans will hit the road Monday
jaxtoday.org ^ | June 27, 2025 | Dan Scanlan

Posted on 06/30/2025 6:00:26 AM PDT by V_TWIN

Self-driving vehicles will take to the streets of Downtown Jacksonville on Monday as the city launches what it calls the first autonomous public transit system in the country.

Eight electric Ford vans will begin carrying passengers on a 3.5-mile loop between LaVilla and EverBank Stadium, driving themselves through traffic.

A Jacksonville Transportation Authority staffer will sit at the steering wheel, ready to take over if necessary.

The system is known as NAVI, short for Neighborhood Autonomous Vehicle Innovation. JTA has been testing the vehicles on the route since March, but the agency announced Friday that the system will begin serving the public Monday.

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"A Jacksonville Transportation Authority staffer will sit at the steering wheel, ready to take over if necessary."

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What's wrong with this picture? SMH

1 posted on 06/30/2025 6:00:26 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Red Badger

Duval flushing money down the toilet ping!


2 posted on 06/30/2025 6:01:51 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

3 posted on 06/30/2025 6:04:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: V_TWIN
I guess I don't see an issue with this. There is a transition period where the the tech is still new. Public acceptance (people like you); will be averse to using the technology until it has some success history.

As long as the staffer is temporary, to be eliminated after successful transition.

4 posted on 06/30/2025 6:16:21 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: V_TWIN

I’m guessing this is Jacksonville, FL and not Jacksonville, NC, or Jacksonville, OR.


5 posted on 06/30/2025 6:21:39 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: V_TWIN

Question to all you smart people on this forum ... how will this affect auto insurance rates?


6 posted on 06/30/2025 6:26:37 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: V_TWIN
Johnny Cab | TalkingPointz
7 posted on 06/30/2025 6:29:34 AM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: Damifino
I agree with you that, hypothetically speaking, having a staffer on hand to take over if needed should seem like the best of both worlds.

But how many people stay alert when they're not needed most of the time? IMHO this could lead to dangerous complacency.

8 posted on 06/30/2025 6:33:59 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Lizavetta
Question to all you smart people on this forum ... how will this affect auto insurance rates?

IMHO it will lower insurance rates .... to those who let their autonomous system upload data to the insurance carrier. Some insurance carriers already offer a "smart" plan with lower rates as long as you keep a scanner in your car to detect high accelerations and sharp turns. Perhaps there's also GPS tracking as well.

9 posted on 06/30/2025 6:35:48 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: V_TWIN

It’s an investment in our future.

God help us.


10 posted on 06/30/2025 6:42:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: V_TWIN

I just returned from San Francisco where it seems a lot of people have switched to driverless Waymo taxis to get around instead of Uber or Lyft. They are everywhere.

Driverless trucks on the interstates will be next.


11 posted on 06/30/2025 6:44:52 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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A Jacksonville Transportation Authority staffer will sit at the steering wheel, ready to take over if necessary but lacking the situational awareness to do so effectively.
12 posted on 06/30/2025 6:45:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Tell It Right

I get notices like this from my local utility company as well.

An offer of lower rates for a “smart plan” - IOW, the utility company gets to set the temp of my home without me being able to change it.

I can only imagine that 85 will be the set temp during our summer temps of 100+ and 65 in the winter for heat.

No. Thanks.


13 posted on 06/30/2025 6:47:46 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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To: Red Badger

“a 3.5-mile loop between LaVilla and EverBank Stadium”

LaVilla.....right up there with moncrief.

Heaven forbid we have an autonomous vehicle desert in the “urban areas”. SMH


14 posted on 06/30/2025 6:48:08 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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When I lived there in the early 70’s just learning how to drive, Moncrief was one place that was forbidden................


15 posted on 06/30/2025 6:49:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Damifino

If this is anything like the ride hailing pilot schemes currently underway at Tesla it is still very much “SUPERVISED “ Full Self Driving. AI “drives” for the most part. The teleoperator monitors and “drives” for the tricky bits. And the Supervisory driver takes over when both screw up.


16 posted on 06/30/2025 6:49:49 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: Bon of Babble
Agreed. My "smart plan" notice from my utility is related to owning an EV. They say if I have a certain type of EV (which I don't) or certain type of charger (which I don't), they can give me a cheaper rate if they have some control over when my EV is charged. No thanks.

I'll stay happy with my past 12 power bills totaling $852, averaging $71/month. That works only because of the power of the word "decentralized", meaning my decentralized solar isn't regulated by some unelected bureaucrat in some central headquarters. For me the argument of solar vs coal vs natural gas isn't so much about which energy source is better, but about who controls it. If I subscribed to the utility's "smart" plan I'd make my power consumption more centralized.

17 posted on 06/30/2025 7:00:47 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Jacksonville also has an above ground automated people mover which nobody ever uses.

It’s commonly known as “the Skyway to nowhere”......and has been quite the boondoggle over the years at the low low cost of $450 million dollars for a MASSIVE 2 1/2 mile loop.

This will be the same thing, only these vehicles have the distinct possiblity of bursting into flames at some point.


18 posted on 06/30/2025 7:01:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

The monorail boondoogle has long been a city favorite!


19 posted on 06/30/2025 7:05:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

And then there’s the new tax on the horizon to pay for a football stadium the city doesn’t need and I will more than likely never go to.

We planned to move out of duval when I retired in 2019 and changed our minds......a decision I will more than likely regret for the rest of my life.


20 posted on 06/30/2025 7:09:32 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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