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Has Conservatism Outlived Its Usefulness?
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 24, 2025 | Frank DeVito

Posted on 06/24/2025 5:30:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob

In April 2025, Tucker Carlson invited Matt Walsh onto his podcast. The conversation covered everything from same-sex adoption and surrogacy to foreign policy isolationism. It is well worth listening to. But beyond the substance of the conversation, there was simply something powerful about a discussion between two men with such influence on the American Right—each man has an audience of several million subscribers on YouTube alone. In the age of digital media, each man far surpasses the reach of any legacy-news media personality. Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson could be fairly described as two of the most influential men in conservative media.

Yet, in one of the most striking parts of the conversation, both of these “conservative influencers” questioned whether the term “conservative” has value any longer. Both seem to think it does not: 

Walsh: The definition of conservatism…it has no definition, I think. We talk about the words that don’t mean anything anymore, words that used to be useful and maybe used to mean something and they just don’t anymore because of how they’ve been used and abused and overused. And I just think conservatism is one of those words. When you tell me now that someone is conservative, that doesn’t tell me a lot about them. I don’t know what you mean. 

Carlson: It generally means I’m not going to like them. They’re going to be some kind of fraud on the internet…that’s my gut reaction, so discredited has that word become.

For decades, the American Right embraced conservatism—from William F. Buckley to Russell Kirk, the Right was decidedly “conservative.” Sure, there were always dissenters, those who were part of the “big tent” Republican Party but identified as liberal Republicans or libertarians or something that was decidedly not conservative. But Tucker Carlson and especially Matt Walsh are not non-conservative Republicans; both men are social conservatives on most/all issues. These are men we would expect to embrace the “conservative” label. Yet they both seem to dismiss the word as virtually meaningless in today’s political culture. What happened?

While dictionary definitions can make for boring essays, it is hard to diagnose why the label “conservative” seems to be losing favor without figuring out what the term actually means. 

The root of conservatism must be in the concept of conserving something. But what, precisely, a conservative is trying to conserve is not always clear. We see this in the clear division between two types of people on the Right who each claim the title of conservative. One group argues that what modern conservatism is meant to conserve is classical liberalism—the liberalism of the Enlightenment, of Locke and Montesquieu—which primarily exists to uphold the liberty of the individual person against the state. It sounds convincing; many on the Right still hold to this. But it is not conservatism.

Yoram Hazoni argues vigorously against this notion of classical liberalism as conservatism, articulating a conservatism that is adamantly opposed to the classical liberal tradition:

In the political arena, conservatism refers to a standpoint that regards the recovery, restoration, elaboration, and repair of national and religious traditions as the key to maintaining a nation and strengthening it through time…This is a tradition already powerfully described by John Fortescue in the fifteenth century, by Richard Hooker in the sixteenth century…by statesmen such as Edmund Burke in Britain and by the Federalist Party of George Washington, John Jay, John Adams, Gouverneur Morris, and Alexander Hamilton in America.

Hazony is adamant that this tradition of conservatism is distinct from, even antagonistic to, classical liberalism. The modern right suffers from 

an extraordinary confusion over what distinguishes Anglo-American conservatism from Enlightenment liberalism…the liberty of the individual is a fine thing, both good in itself and worthwhile for its beneficial effects, when taken in the right proportion…But under the present conditions of permanent revolution and cultural devastation, the most important thing to remember about individual liberties is that, in and of themselves, they have no power to make anything stable or permanent.

What is conservatism conserving? Individual liberties and the Enlightenment tradition? Stability and order? Tradition? Religious faith? This confusion, if it is not solved, justifies the frustration and dismissiveness of men on the Right like Carlson and Walsh: Why use the word “conservative” to define a political movement if we can’t agree fundamentally on what we are trying to conserve? Is it liberty for its own sake? Is it tradition and religion and the natural order? These are not the same thing. If conservatism cannot clarify what it is, there is indeed nothing to be gained from using the word.

So, can conservatism be clarified and used in a useful way or has the term outlived its usefulness? On one hand, it may be politically and culturally expedient to discard the term altogether. The rise of President Trump has brought together a coalition of conservatives, center-left liberals alienated by the radically progressive Democratic Party, and normal people who simply want law and order, a country with physical borders, or schools where kids learn reading and math rather than a litany of sexual expressions and gender pronouns. So, it makes sense that those interested in solidifying the realigned coalition that is today’s Republican Party may simply wish to shy away from the term “conservative” altogether. Why not move on from the tired conservative-liberal paradigm and bring the party into the postmodern world?

On the other hand, simply being “a Republican” or “right-wing” doesn’t necessarily tell us anything. One can be pro-Israel or anti-Israel, in favor of robust government spending for the common good or of cutting government spending down to the bone, an isolationist or Bush-era neoconservative, traditionally Catholic or totally secular, and still validly claim to be a Republican or “on the Right.” It seems worthwhile to actually have useful terms to describe the political principles that animate policy positions.

So, what is a conservative? For that term to have meaning—and to convince men like Carlson and Walsh that “conservative” is not a dirty and useless word—it needs to be properly and boldly defined. And it can indeed be salvaged, but only if one is willing to be honest and a bit bold. As Russell Kirk noted, social conservatism (and really there is no other kind) is “preservation of the ancient moral traditions of humanity. Conservatives respect the wisdom of their ancestors…They think society is a spiritual reality…” While a simple definition of conservatism is difficult, this passage points out the two necessary features of a coherent understanding of the word: it involves a stable continuation of tradition, and it acknowledges the spiritual reality of society. For American conservatism, this moral tradition, this spiritual reality, means Christianity.

Most of the Founding Fathers professed Christianity; the Bible was quoted in 18th-century American political writing far more than any other book. More broadly, Anglo-American social conservatism—and its emphases on stable marriages, families, and communities, and on human rights as rooted in the truth that all people are created in the image and likeness of God—is incomprehensible apart from Christian faith and doctrine. People like to talk about conservatism as a preservation of the “Western tradition,” and rightly so. But the reality is that the “Western tradition” is essentially the Christian tradition. Christian faith and prayer, Christian devotion and values, are the source of the principles of social conservatism. 

There is simply no way to recover a meaningful definition of conservatism without acknowledging that Christianity is that which conservatives seek to conserve. Without Christianity, the only alternative is indeed to admit that the word “conservative” has no real value and that the modern Right should search for a new term to articulate its principles. But the very things that the wider conservative movement seeks to preserve—faith and family, stability and order, God and tradition, rights and customs—are Christian values. 

Rather than discard the term, the Right should recover a bold, explicit respect for and defense of Christianity. Yes, we conservatives are trying to conserve something. But it is not classical liberalism; it is not the values of the Lockean Enlightenment; it is not liberty as an end in itself. Conservatives should shed their timidity and proclaim that what we seek to conserve is indeed the central role of Christianity in society.


TOPICS: Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: conservatism; fakeconservatives; frankdevito; mattwalsh; navelgazing; qatarlson; walsh; whatisthisidonteven

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Pew does a nice job of decomposing the left and right.

The four Democratic-oriented typology groups highlight the party’s racial and ethnic diversity, as well as the unwieldy nature of the current Democratic coalition.

They include two very different groups of liberal Democrats: Progressive Left and Establishment Liberals. Progressive Left, the only majority White, non-Hispanic group of Democrats, have very liberal views on virtually every issue and support far-reaching changes to address racial injustice and expand the social safety net. Establishment Liberals, while just as liberal in many ways as Progressive Left, are far less persuaded of the need for sweeping change.

Two other Democratic-aligned groups could not be more different from each other, both demographically and in their relationship to the party. Democratic Mainstays, the largest Democratic-oriented group, as well as the oldest on average, are unshakeable Democratic loyalists and have a moderate tilt on some issues. Outsider Left, the youngest typology group, voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden a year ago and are very liberal in most of their views, but they are deeply frustrated with the political system – including the Democratic Party and its leaders.

The four Republican-oriented groups include three groups of conservatives: Faith and Flag Conservatives are intensely conservative in all realms; they are far more likely than all other typology groups to say government policies should support religious values and that compromise in politics is just “selling out on what you believe in.” Committed Conservatives also express conservative views across the board, but with a somewhat softer edge, particularly on issues of immigration and America’s place in the world. Populist Right, who have less formal education than most other typology groups and are among the most likely to live in rural areas, are highly critical of both immigrants and major U.S. corporations.

Ambivalent Right, the youngest and least conservative GOP-aligned group, hold conservative views about the size of government, the economic system and issues of race and gender. But they are the only group on the political right in which majorities favor legal abortion and say marijuana should be legal for recreational and medical use. They are also distinct in their views about Donald Trump – while a majority voted for him in 2020, most say they would prefer he not continue to be a major political figure.

The only typology group without a clear partisan orientation – Stressed Sideliners – also is the group with the lowest level of political engagement. Stressed Sideliners, who make up 15% of the public but constituted just 10% of voters in 2020, have a mix of conservative and liberal views but are largely defined by their minimal interest in politics.

1 posted on 06/24/2025 5:30:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Good article...


2 posted on 06/24/2025 5:32:50 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: DoodleBob

Might as well just go in for full-blown globalist communism!


3 posted on 06/24/2025 5:34:33 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DoodleBob

Why doesn’t the Pew chart show “Radical communists. Radical Marxists. Radical Maoists. Anarchists” at the bottom of the democrat list?


4 posted on 06/24/2025 5:35:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: DoodleBob

Nothing ever changes using the republican party with all of the old and stale republican intelligentsia. It has only changed because a rogue billionaire elbowed his way into the White House. The communists are always just one election away from destroying our country.


5 posted on 06/24/2025 5:37:10 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: DoodleBob
Pew says that "Dem / Lean Dem" includes "Faith and Flag Conservatives" and "Committed Conservatives"?


6 posted on 06/24/2025 5:37:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It does. That’s the Progressive Left. Perhaps not surprisingly, these “commies” are actually lily white. Nearly seven-in-ten Progressive Left (68%) are White adults, making this group less racially and ethnically diverse than the other Democratic-oriented groups.

Yet, these chiefly white folks hold extremist views not JUST on race…

…but on a plethora of matters. Indeed, this lot holds more extreme views overall than those held by more racially-diverse Dem groups.

These whites live in enclaves in cities, prefer going to museums over going to the range, and think religion is sophistry. Their policies and language all reek of a Superiority Complex.

7 posted on 06/24/2025 5:40:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

No it has not.
It’s just more fun to be able to spend money that others will have to pay back, but that’s just being a bad character.


8 posted on 06/24/2025 5:41:05 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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(Matt) Walsh: “The definition of conservatism…it has no definition, I think.” …
Maybe if Walsh read The Conscience of a Conservative, he might start to get the sense of what a conservative is?
9 posted on 06/24/2025 5:45:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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PS. The Pew chart is garbage.


10 posted on 06/24/2025 5:48:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DoodleBob

Not as long as liberalism exists.


11 posted on 06/24/2025 5:49:46 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Olog-hai

Here is a picture of Conservatism, not caring about its "usefulness"

12 posted on 06/24/2025 6:05:29 PM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: DoodleBob

Bookmark


13 posted on 06/24/2025 6:09:39 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: DoodleBob

Jacksonian Populism.


14 posted on 06/24/2025 6:15:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO ODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: McCarthysGhost
Bingo.
However. We choose wrongly.
Desantis should be president now.
LOL! Let that thought set in.
15 posted on 06/24/2025 6:38:02 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !!s)
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To: DoodleBob

“Has crisis magazine outlived its usefulness?”

CC


16 posted on 06/24/2025 6:41:37 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Pedisequus parasiticus es popularium!)
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To: DoodleBob

Where’s the “stop stealing the fruits of my labor” party on this list?

Draining my earnings via taxes, price inflation due to trillions in freebies, wage competition due to millions of illegals, etc.

Where’s that party on this list?


17 posted on 06/24/2025 6:45:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: DoodleBob

How would we know unless it was tried?


18 posted on 06/24/2025 6:45:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Olog-hai

It’s not that hard to understand the Typologies.

Pew’s Political Typologies are categories of people who share similar sentiments and philosophical beliefs. This is the Typology of Ambivalent Right:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/ambivalent-right/

What Pew is saying is that 6% of people who are Dem/Dem Lean have the Ambivalent Right Typology.

Similarly, a fraction/less than 5% of people who are Repub/Rep Lean have the Outsider Left Typology.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/outsider-left/

Far from being garbage, the differences detailed by Pew are visible on FR. There are a handful of pro-vax people, some mild anti-Trumpers, tons of anti-company/borderline Occupy Wall Street-types, lotsa trust busters, and a spirited lot of pro-drug law and and decriminalization people. And while neocon is usually a bad word here, in the past week I’ve seen calls to zot people who dared to question the US bombing of Iran.

Pew is more on the mark than people would like to think..


19 posted on 06/24/2025 6:52:30 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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Conservatism is on the upswing. The GOP is in big trouble.


20 posted on 06/24/2025 6:57:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.)
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