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Has Conservatism Outlived Its Usefulness?
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 24, 2025 | Frank DeVito

Posted on 06/24/2025 5:30:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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Pew does a nice job of decomposing the left and right.

The four Democratic-oriented typology groups highlight the party’s racial and ethnic diversity, as well as the unwieldy nature of the current Democratic coalition.

They include two very different groups of liberal Democrats: Progressive Left and Establishment Liberals. Progressive Left, the only majority White, non-Hispanic group of Democrats, have very liberal views on virtually every issue and support far-reaching changes to address racial injustice and expand the social safety net. Establishment Liberals, while just as liberal in many ways as Progressive Left, are far less persuaded of the need for sweeping change.

Two other Democratic-aligned groups could not be more different from each other, both demographically and in their relationship to the party. Democratic Mainstays, the largest Democratic-oriented group, as well as the oldest on average, are unshakeable Democratic loyalists and have a moderate tilt on some issues. Outsider Left, the youngest typology group, voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden a year ago and are very liberal in most of their views, but they are deeply frustrated with the political system – including the Democratic Party and its leaders.

The four Republican-oriented groups include three groups of conservatives: Faith and Flag Conservatives are intensely conservative in all realms; they are far more likely than all other typology groups to say government policies should support religious values and that compromise in politics is just “selling out on what you believe in.” Committed Conservatives also express conservative views across the board, but with a somewhat softer edge, particularly on issues of immigration and America’s place in the world. Populist Right, who have less formal education than most other typology groups and are among the most likely to live in rural areas, are highly critical of both immigrants and major U.S. corporations.

Ambivalent Right, the youngest and least conservative GOP-aligned group, hold conservative views about the size of government, the economic system and issues of race and gender. But they are the only group on the political right in which majorities favor legal abortion and say marijuana should be legal for recreational and medical use. They are also distinct in their views about Donald Trump – while a majority voted for him in 2020, most say they would prefer he not continue to be a major political figure.

The only typology group without a clear partisan orientation – Stressed Sideliners – also is the group with the lowest level of political engagement. Stressed Sideliners, who make up 15% of the public but constituted just 10% of voters in 2020, have a mix of conservative and liberal views but are largely defined by their minimal interest in politics.

1 posted on 06/24/2025 5:30:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Good article...


2 posted on 06/24/2025 5:32:50 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: DoodleBob

Might as well just go in for full-blown globalist communism!


3 posted on 06/24/2025 5:34:33 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DoodleBob

Why doesn’t the Pew chart show “Radical communists. Radical Marxists. Radical Maoists. Anarchists” at the bottom of the democrat list?


4 posted on 06/24/2025 5:35:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: DoodleBob

Nothing ever changes using the republican party with all of the old and stale republican intelligentsia. It has only changed because a rogue billionaire elbowed his way into the White House. The communists are always just one election away from destroying our country.


5 posted on 06/24/2025 5:37:10 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: DoodleBob
Pew says that "Dem / Lean Dem" includes "Faith and Flag Conservatives" and "Committed Conservatives"?


6 posted on 06/24/2025 5:37:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It does. That’s the Progressive Left. Perhaps not surprisingly, these “commies” are actually lily white. Nearly seven-in-ten Progressive Left (68%) are White adults, making this group less racially and ethnically diverse than the other Democratic-oriented groups.

Yet, these chiefly white folks hold extremist views not JUST on race…

…but on a plethora of matters. Indeed, this lot holds more extreme views overall than those held by more racially-diverse Dem groups.

These whites live in enclaves in cities, prefer going to museums over going to the range, and think religion is sophistry. Their policies and language all reek of a Superiority Complex.

7 posted on 06/24/2025 5:40:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

No it has not.
It’s just more fun to be able to spend money that others will have to pay back, but that’s just being a bad character.


8 posted on 06/24/2025 5:41:05 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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(Matt) Walsh: “The definition of conservatism…it has no definition, I think.” …
Maybe if Walsh read The Conscience of a Conservative, he might start to get the sense of what a conservative is?
9 posted on 06/24/2025 5:45:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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PS. The Pew chart is garbage.


10 posted on 06/24/2025 5:48:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DoodleBob

Not as long as liberalism exists.


11 posted on 06/24/2025 5:49:46 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Olog-hai

Here is a picture of Conservatism, not caring about its "usefulness"

12 posted on 06/24/2025 6:05:29 PM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: DoodleBob

Bookmark


13 posted on 06/24/2025 6:09:39 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: DoodleBob

Jacksonian Populism.


14 posted on 06/24/2025 6:15:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO ODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: McCarthysGhost
Bingo.
However. We choose wrongly.
Desantis should be president now.
LOL! Let that thought set in.
15 posted on 06/24/2025 6:38:02 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !!s)
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To: DoodleBob

“Has crisis magazine outlived its usefulness?”

CC


16 posted on 06/24/2025 6:41:37 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Pedisequus parasiticus es popularium!)
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To: DoodleBob

Where’s the “stop stealing the fruits of my labor” party on this list?

Draining my earnings via taxes, price inflation due to trillions in freebies, wage competition due to millions of illegals, etc.

Where’s that party on this list?


17 posted on 06/24/2025 6:45:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: DoodleBob

How would we know unless it was tried?


18 posted on 06/24/2025 6:45:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Olog-hai

It’s not that hard to understand the Typologies.

Pew’s Political Typologies are categories of people who share similar sentiments and philosophical beliefs. This is the Typology of Ambivalent Right:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/ambivalent-right/

What Pew is saying is that 6% of people who are Dem/Dem Lean have the Ambivalent Right Typology.

Similarly, a fraction/less than 5% of people who are Repub/Rep Lean have the Outsider Left Typology.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/outsider-left/

Far from being garbage, the differences detailed by Pew are visible on FR. There are a handful of pro-vax people, some mild anti-Trumpers, tons of anti-company/borderline Occupy Wall Street-types, lotsa trust busters, and a spirited lot of pro-drug law and and decriminalization people. And while neocon is usually a bad word here, in the past week I’ve seen calls to zot people who dared to question the US bombing of Iran.

Pew is more on the mark than people would like to think..


19 posted on 06/24/2025 6:52:30 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Conservatism is on the upswing. The GOP is in big trouble.


20 posted on 06/24/2025 6:57:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.)
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