Posted on 06/14/2025 9:29:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
It's neoconism, the same thing that failed miserably in Iraq and Afghanistan under Bush.
In fact, Trump aggressively campaigned against all that.
War is expensive and the US is $37 trillion in debt. Regime change in Iran and rebuilding Israel will add another couple of trillion to the tab. Beside I doubt regime change will go as easily as they seem to think.
Levin is a clown. And he’s a parody with his knee-jerk interventionism.
“The strikes led to a sharp increase in the price of oil, which is negative for us,” Zelenskyy said. “The Russians are getting stronger due to greater income from oil exports.”
What Trump campaigned directly against was allowing Iran to develop nuclear weapons. He railed against the Obama/Biden treaty and their policies that rewarded their bad behaviors. Or weren’t you paying attention?
What a remarkably well-honed explanation for the rancorous divisions appearing on a political forum, as one watches only a few posts away ---
Dear FRiends, We're now over 68%, but we still have $26K to go. And we have only 17 days left to bring it in. We're gonna need a whole lot more of your help here, folks. Let's get 'er done. [FReepathon]
genocidal terrorist regime
terror-supporting regime
isolationists
characterizing the Iranian regime as oppressed and victimized
reprobates
perverse ideological views
righteous war of survival
Iranian terrorist regime
attract Marxists, Islamists, and antisemites
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Iran is a threat, we cannot let them acquire a nuke.
Trump is right, and his approach in the Middle East is likely the best Course of Action.
I hope it does pay off and that it not only blocks Iranian nuclear ambitions but also creates a lasting peace in the region.
But this isn't how you make an argument.
This just sounds dumb.
I’m with you on this one.
Taking action that destroys Iran's oil and gas infrastructure that will result in gas prices is not defensive and it screwing American citizens.
Gas prices just went 30 cents here yesterday and that is not acceptable.
Nor is us being involved in any kind of regime change/nation building schemes that failed miserably in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Its past that point now.
With Israel targeting nuclear fscilities exclusively, which is against provisions of the Geneva convention agreements, and the strikes today against energy infrastructure in Iran, it now involves China, Turkey, India, Armenia, Pakistan, UAE, Qatar and others.
It is a regional war now.
Will be interesting the effects of the price of energy here and in Europa.
Russia has their own energy. But, all it will take is one targeted strike against Russian energy infrastructure and away itll go.
No strategic thinking at all.
“...the old and failed foreign policy of the past and insisting that they’ve uncovered the secret, new way forward — isolationism.”
Levin is a neocon moron. Isolationism served us well until democrat presidents (Wilson and FDR) got us into world wars.
Remember he was originally a DeSantis never-Trumper. I’m glad to see him showing his colors now. It’ll ruin his reputation.
Regional peace and stability will be achieved with regime change. Russia will have to get its drones elsewhere. China will still get its oil. Oil price spikes can be mitigated by the Gulf states increasing output. Putin is fast and furiously making overtures to Trump and Netanyahu and offering his “mediation services”. We are witnessing regime change done right without the blood and treasure. Investment here comes with dividends. I like the return.
That latter is not acceptable.
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