Posted on 06/11/2025 5:26:23 AM PDT by vespa300
Yes, we'll build a wall. But we'll do it according to the map of Mexico from 1830
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Can we just give them southern CA?
Come and Take It! Hosehead! “Remember the Alamo? We’d like a little payback on your thieving butts.
All i can say is, lock and load.
I have a better idea. Send 10s of millions of illegal aliens from Mexico back to them and build the wall along the border and don’t let the illegals back in.
I favor annexation of Baja:
I say we take BAJA and Sonara and turn them into a new paradise with significant shipping and naval bases as payment in return for dealing with all their crap up till now.
Mexico can have Mexifornia.
___Can we just give them southern CA?___
I’m gonna use the Godfather example of take the canoli, leave the gun.
I say export the people in Southern Ca and keep the beaches, mountains and the Sizzler where the salad bar is great.
Keep the land send the people.
Mexico stole it from Spain who stole it from the Aztecs and other native peoples.
The left would be OK with Mexico taking a slice of the USA. The same left is apoplectic about Trump talking about Canada 51st state.
So he wants the phony borders made up by spanish conquest.
Very indigenous of him.
Courtesy of Travis McGee/Matt Bracken, who saw this coming years ago:
“The True History of the Southwest, 101”
The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What’s the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.
For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda.
By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn government of Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.
For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.
Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these provinces subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican!”
So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.
Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.
And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole, (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are now supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there?
From where does this absurd idea spring?
At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.
In summary, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!
NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of, NOT ONE.
They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.
It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.
We got pay back from the Alamo. We destroyed ( massacred) the Mexican army and captured Santa Anna a few weeks later.
“ More and more I see talk that we stole land from Mexico. It’s becoming their theme. Signs in LA, shouts, etc. We better get a handle on this cancer.”
Likely too late in some areas. The only way to run them out is to cut off all social benefits, or to make it actually illegal to be here. I don’t see either happening.
Sure, give them SoCal. In trade Mexico can become our vassal state with heavy tribute in men and money. Same with Canada.
Mexico stole (what is now southwestern United States) from the American Indian. Dunno who they stole it from but they sure stole portions of it from rival Indian tribes.
I guess this guy has forgotten the lesson we taught them in the 1840’s.
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