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1 posted on 06/02/2025 3:16:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Massive use of A.I. will gradually kill the mental exercises from which humans develop all manner of critical thinking.


2 posted on 06/02/2025 3:23:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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“A.I. Killed the Math Brain”

Actually, Public Schools beat them to that goal.


3 posted on 06/02/2025 3:23:41 PM PDT by BobL
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I posed the question to Gemini that when I ask it chemistry questions I understand what I am asking and I understand the response.

Then I said if I went into a subject I knew nothing about (law was the example) I wouldn’t know what questions to ask and I’d never understand all the legalese in its answer.

It responded that it was a tool, much like construction tools. You have to know how to use it as it was simply an assistant. If you don’t know how to say, use a backhoe then you’ll likely create a disaster if you try fooling with it.


7 posted on 06/02/2025 3:29:39 PM PDT by packagingguy
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Thank you for posting this. I’m not sure folks realize how dangerous this really is. Humans are going to mentally go backward to primitive man from dependence on AI.


8 posted on 06/02/2025 3:31:54 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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This AI vs man debate becomes sort of moot at some point when man is able to interface their brains to computers. I doubt I will see it but wish them well.


9 posted on 06/02/2025 3:33:12 PM PDT by plain talk
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Search engines already destroyed our memory recall ability.


10 posted on 06/02/2025 3:33:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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I have to mention this short story by Asimov ... foretelling this exact situation:

The Feeling of Power - Isaac Asimov

A short story by Isaac Asimov exploring the potential for both good and destructive applications of knowledge in a future where humans have become reliant on computers. The story revolves around a low-grade Technician, Myron Aub, who discovers the fundamentals of pencil-and-paper arithmetic, a skill humanity has largely forgotten. Aub's discovery, dubbed "Graphitics," is initially seen as a way to understand and potentially improve old computer systems, but is quickly appropriated by the military for their own purposes.

11 posted on 06/02/2025 3:38:13 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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Read this in the 60's...

Why spend 20 yrs studying math if you can use a tool to solve a problem?
It's like the difference between cooking on an open fire versus using a modern oven with a temperature probe.
Tools are skill levelers and enhancers if you learn how to use them.
Unless your a professor teaching the skill for 1000.00 a credit hour.
Otherwise, adapt, incorporate, improvise, improve.
Same argument was used against calculators in the 70's.
The smart students bought programmable hp's and learned to reduce the time it took to solve problems.
12 posted on 06/02/2025 3:38:17 PM PDT by Waverunner
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How about mental arithmetic?

Just teaching my granddaughters the number tables and simple ways to add and subtract have put them grade levels above their peers.

Just waiting for when they decide that grandpa is an old has-been.


19 posted on 06/02/2025 3:56:19 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Many of the AI models will tell you that 9.1 > 9.11


20 posted on 06/02/2025 3:56:55 PM PDT by glorgau
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First they came for the typists and clerks.
I said nothing because my small company made more money. Word processing let me do it myself.

Next they came for the bookkeepers.
All they did was enter numbers into spreadsheets and do arithmetic. I said nothing. The software made it more accurate.

Next they came for the draftsmen.
Anyone could learn CAD software in a little time. Why spend years learning how to make block letters and keep line weights even.?

Then they came for the structural engineers.
Finite element analysis was easy now! I don’t even need to understand the theory!

Then they came for the quality control engineers.
Statistical processing with my software guaranteed my company could work without them.

Next they came for the forklift operators.
The autonomous machines never complained, never took a day off.

Then they came for the accountants.
Business reporting and planning was so much easier! No meetings to buy coffee and donuts for anymore!

Next they came for the design engineers.
Our new tools can create new products without human assistance!

Then they came for the bankers.
Our bank showed us how I can do it all with just a few clicks!

And next they came for the marketing department.
AI can tell me what my customers really want!

And finally they came for me.
My computer tools had created products that were dangerous because they didn’t anticipate what my customers would do with them!

And when I called for a lawyer, the computer put me on hold.
Still waiting.


23 posted on 06/02/2025 4:01:16 PM PDT by motor_racer ("We're gonna reward our friends and we're gonna punish our enemies" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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Universities have not taught critical thinking skills for years. It was believed to be micro-aggressions.


24 posted on 06/02/2025 4:05:23 PM PDT by alternatives?
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Math was not fun for me early on but somewhere in the process, I think trig and Geometry formulas it changed. I started liking the steps and getting credit and encouragement showing my work, getting it wrong and yet getting some credit.

It started being a game to have no red lines and the chalk talk
Cool super nerds showed me my mistakes and encouraged me, showed basic math patterns and algebraic tricks to make the upper division math a bit easier.
But, yes, racist. Who needs it?


29 posted on 06/02/2025 4:25:56 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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Might not be all bad.

Consider a parallel: “Typing killed cursive writing”...

So what? Is there really a loss to the human race if this happens?

It’s not a perfect analogy but apply some logic to doomsday fears about AI.


30 posted on 06/02/2025 4:29:44 PM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back)
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Well, at least we’ll have great poetry from Diane Keaton.


31 posted on 06/02/2025 5:02:19 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Right now AI is in a tricky spot. It is good enough to solve Freshman-difficulty problems, but not good enough to solve senior ones let alone professional ones.

And yet, the way to learn to solve problems is by solving them, starting with the easy ones. The article is absolutely correct that a distressingly large number of students are using AI to cheat, and then are woefully unprepared for advanced coursework.


32 posted on 06/02/2025 5:23:52 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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If you cheat in school you will hit a wall when you try getting a job.


37 posted on 06/02/2025 7:07:14 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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Common Core killed the brain.


40 posted on 06/02/2025 8:18:43 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Prior to AI, the NY Times killed the liberal brain.


43 posted on 06/02/2025 9:38:13 PM PDT by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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Bfl


44 posted on 06/03/2025 1:20:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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