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To: BobL

Amazing that another nothing burger turned out to be a root cause....

Even the old cold warrior knows we pushed too far with NATO expansion.

The real nugget is the US and four NATO members will vote against Ukraine membership... takes 30 of 30.

Vance is busy with EU Facist election stealing. Those opposed to NATO expansion are not going to color revolution or EU Courts election engineered during the Trump presidency.


4 posted on 05/30/2025 5:23:55 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper

“The real nugget is the US and four NATO members will vote against Ukraine membership... takes 30 of 30.”

The problem is that “The Neocons have Tools” to paraphrase Ursula, and will use them against ‘trouble makers’. Look what they’ve managed so far - which was to install compliant leaders in EVERY major European country and the vast majority of the smaller players.
I think it’s more likely that they’ll be able to deal with the 4 ‘trouble makers’ instead of being hamstrung by them, in part because the two most obvious ones (Hungary and Slovakia) are surrounded by Neocon Puppet States and don’t have sea access. I’m not sure who the other two are, but probably the same for them.


10 posted on 05/30/2025 5:32:48 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Jumper

Agree with you as another from that era.

When Germany reunited, of course, Germany remains in NATO, an expansion of territory, not nations.

But when the Soviet Union dissolved, we should have admitted RUSSIA into NATO and started greater military ties bi-laterally between the US and Russia. This would have been the better option but of course the MIC would not be as happy.

It’s still not too late for the US to get out of NATO and start a new alignment of nations based on territorial ownership above the Arctic Circle.

Western Europe is becoming part of the 21st Century Islamic Caliphate. They’re not salvageable. Defend what remains of Christianity in Europe, in the east.

Cut the deal to end the Ukraine bloodshed and move forward with a new approach to Europe.


12 posted on 05/30/2025 5:40:59 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Jumper
Amazing that another nothing burger turned out to be a root cause....

Even the old cold warrior knows we pushed too far with NATO expansion.

But NATO expansion was never the root cause; Ukrainian independence is.

13 posted on 05/30/2025 5:42:10 AM PDT by Petrosius
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