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GM to pour $888M into building new V-8 engine in New York
Fox Business ^ | 5/28/25 | Pilar Arias

Posted on 05/29/2025 1:36:30 AM PDT by Libloather

General Motors is investing $888 million in its Tonawanda Propulsion plant in Buffalo, New York, "to support the production of the sixth generation of GM’s V-8 engines," the automaker announced Tuesday.

The investment is a shift from a previously announced $300 million commitment to make electric-vehicle drive units at the plant, as the V-8 engines are used in GM's full-sized trucks and SUVs.

GM says the newer engines will provide drivers better fuel economy and reduce emissions by utilizing "new combustion and thermal management innovations."

"Our significant investments in GM’s Tonawanda Propulsion plant show our commitment to strengthening American manufacturing and supporting jobs in the U.S.," Mary Barra, GM Chair and CEO, said in a statement.

"GM's Buffalo plant has been in operation for 87 years and is continuing to innovate the engines we build there to make them more fuel efficient and higher performing, which will help us deliver world-class trucks and SUVs to our customers for years to come," she concluded.

While the plant prepares to start production of the sixth generation V-8 engine in 2027, it will continue to produce fifth generation V-8 engines.

The move is likely another sign of automakers adapting to slower-than-expected market demand for EVs and comes after the Detroit automaker aggressively lobbied Congress to rescind California electric-vehicle rules.

New York Governor Kathy Hochul said the project will support 870 jobs at Tonawanda Propulsion, including 177 jobs deemed at risk, according to Reuters. The state plans to provide up to $16.96 million in tax credits in return for investment commitments.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; buffalo; engine; evs; gm; newyork; ny; tonawanda; tonawandapropulsion; v8; v8engines
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To: Libloather

NY’s freak governor and leftists in general will eat it alive like maggots.


61 posted on 05/29/2025 5:35:03 AM PDT by Vision (“Our Democracy” means "Our Slush Fund." The Left is hate.)
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To: Libloather

Investing in NY is dumb.. they should move it to a Gas friendly state.


62 posted on 05/29/2025 5:35:49 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: hopespringseternal
And the solution to the bearing failures is just thicker oil. That's sarcasm, right?
63 posted on 05/29/2025 5:36:42 AM PDT by anton
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To: z3n

A Mopar 413 Max Wedge. Rare indeed!


64 posted on 05/29/2025 5:44:15 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I just searched for “there is no substitute for cubic displacement” and that’s the image that I found, but now that you mention it, I do see the spark wires terminating at the top center of the heads.


65 posted on 05/29/2025 5:47:31 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: BobL
Bitch (Mary Barra, CEO GM) should have been fired DECADES AGO for sucking up to the feds, rather than considering the needs of her customers. Basically made her brand the Bud Lite of automobiles.

No argument there, but presumably the GM Board of Directors hired here, so they are all at fault for buying into the AGW / EV scam.

66 posted on 05/29/2025 5:48:25 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: maddog55

It’s not dumb.

GM just got one heckuva bribe in those EV penalties being waived for two years.

It’s called Government Motors for a reason.


67 posted on 05/29/2025 5:49:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: mewzilla

And for anyone curious...

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/gm/institutional-holdings

Check out the top three.


68 posted on 05/29/2025 5:49:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: cymbeline

As others have suggested, the excess heat is probably responsible for the short lives of those particular parts. Another thing that I’d look at is the quality of the raw material. Start tracing the material certs and you’d be amazed at what you will find being passed off as an alloy steel.


69 posted on 05/29/2025 5:52:04 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: riverrunner

I’d rather have the first Gen LS back.


70 posted on 05/29/2025 6:06:16 AM PDT by cableguymn (Can't cancel all of us)
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To: Libloather

Hmmmmmmm. Tax incentives?


71 posted on 05/29/2025 6:06:41 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: AZJeep

Upstate NY has been “being destroyed” since the late 1970s.
I grew up in Orchard Park, NY(home of the Buffalo Bills).
The unions destroyed Bethlehem Steel. 25K people used to work at the plant in Lackawanna. Now, there are windmills and Tesla Solar city plant there among other railroad reloads on that site.

My dad worked as an Owner Operator leased to a trucking company out of Tonawanda, NY. He had to be a Teamster back then. No trucker was not in the union then.

I grew up in a middle class neighborhood full of kids. Almost everyone in that neighborhood except one LEFT after high school/college to move somewhere else. Mostly, out of NYS entirely. I moved to NH. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE.


72 posted on 05/29/2025 6:06:58 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: z3n

A few years ago I was thinking about buying a 1980s Mercedes SL550-560. This is the same convertible model with a 5.5-5.6 liter V8 engine. What I was surprised was that it ONLY had 227 HP.

Then I did a little research on some of the “muscle cars” from back in the early 1970s. The Trans Am even with a 6 liter engine never had more than 345 HP.

The 1960s-1970s GTO was a maximum of 360HP.

My point is that there are 3.5 liter V6 engines now that attain 300+ HP easily. Put on a turbo charger and they are 400HP. I am still not going to buy a Tacoma with a 2.4 Liter 4 Cylinder turbo charged engine though. I will keep the V6 one I am currently driving.


73 posted on 05/29/2025 6:21:01 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Bonemaker

https://youtu.be/TPV4A9KwG3A?si=6iYu0xtlJMoaYgqB

50s fare.


74 posted on 05/29/2025 6:25:28 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: MachIV

I have never been a fan of those engines either, having had zero luck with V-6’s going back to the mid-80’s. Until I bought my 2020 F150 with a 3.5 dual turbo setup. FWIW, that engine is a beast! And I have had zero problems with it going on 5 years, so the reliability is decent.


75 posted on 05/29/2025 6:26:30 AM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: woodbutcher1963

My 2020 F150 has a 3.5 dual turbo setup that puts out 360 hp, and that’s the low end of what that will do. Same engine, same turbos does 470 or better in the Raptor.


76 posted on 05/29/2025 6:28:58 AM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: woodbutcher1963

Yep.
There were V8 engines in the 1980s that were dogs and yet still guzzled the gas.

Round that same time, pontiac came out with the quad4 (a 4-banger that had better respiration because of the 4 valves per cylinder) and Buick had their grand national V6 which could beat your average chevy small block V8.

While I’m no tree-hugger per se (Actually I love trees), one of the alternate benefits of engines being forced to become much more efficient isn’t just the fuel savings, but also the amount of power that you could derive. So, speaking of displacement, you could reduce displacement but increase efficiency, or you could keep displacement and increase power.


77 posted on 05/29/2025 6:30:02 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Libloather

I would expect that after so many decades of making engines, American companies should be able to build something solid.


78 posted on 05/29/2025 6:31:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: woodbutcher1963

Yes, I had family there.
All died or moved away!
When visiting, I was always surprised by the poverty of the Upstate. Everything seem to be going down over there.
I can see some people like living in NYC, but not in Upstate!


79 posted on 05/29/2025 6:35:44 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: z3n

Indeed

Mass x Velocity = Speed


80 posted on 05/29/2025 6:49:46 AM PDT by Vaduz
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