Posted on 05/29/2025 1:36:30 AM PDT by Libloather
General Motors is investing $888 million in its Tonawanda Propulsion plant in Buffalo, New York, "to support the production of the sixth generation of GM’s V-8 engines," the automaker announced Tuesday.
The investment is a shift from a previously announced $300 million commitment to make electric-vehicle drive units at the plant, as the V-8 engines are used in GM's full-sized trucks and SUVs.
GM says the newer engines will provide drivers better fuel economy and reduce emissions by utilizing "new combustion and thermal management innovations."
"Our significant investments in GM’s Tonawanda Propulsion plant show our commitment to strengthening American manufacturing and supporting jobs in the U.S.," Mary Barra, GM Chair and CEO, said in a statement.
"GM's Buffalo plant has been in operation for 87 years and is continuing to innovate the engines we build there to make them more fuel efficient and higher performing, which will help us deliver world-class trucks and SUVs to our customers for years to come," she concluded.
While the plant prepares to start production of the sixth generation V-8 engine in 2027, it will continue to produce fifth generation V-8 engines.
The move is likely another sign of automakers adapting to slower-than-expected market demand for EVs and comes after the Detroit automaker aggressively lobbied Congress to rescind California electric-vehicle rules.
New York Governor Kathy Hochul said the project will support 870 jobs at Tonawanda Propulsion, including 177 jobs deemed at risk, according to Reuters. The state plans to provide up to $16.96 million in tax credits in return for investment commitments.
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NY’s freak governor and leftists in general will eat it alive like maggots.
Investing in NY is dumb.. they should move it to a Gas friendly state.
A Mopar 413 Max Wedge. Rare indeed!
I just searched for “there is no substitute for cubic displacement” and that’s the image that I found, but now that you mention it, I do see the spark wires terminating at the top center of the heads.
No argument there, but presumably the GM Board of Directors hired here, so they are all at fault for buying into the AGW / EV scam.
It’s not dumb.
GM just got one heckuva bribe in those EV penalties being waived for two years.
It’s called Government Motors for a reason.
And for anyone curious...
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/gm/institutional-holdings
Check out the top three.
As others have suggested, the excess heat is probably responsible for the short lives of those particular parts. Another thing that I’d look at is the quality of the raw material. Start tracing the material certs and you’d be amazed at what you will find being passed off as an alloy steel.
I’d rather have the first Gen LS back.
Hmmmmmmm. Tax incentives?
Upstate NY has been “being destroyed” since the late 1970s.
I grew up in Orchard Park, NY(home of the Buffalo Bills).
The unions destroyed Bethlehem Steel. 25K people used to work at the plant in Lackawanna. Now, there are windmills and Tesla Solar city plant there among other railroad reloads on that site.
My dad worked as an Owner Operator leased to a trucking company out of Tonawanda, NY. He had to be a Teamster back then. No trucker was not in the union then.
I grew up in a middle class neighborhood full of kids. Almost everyone in that neighborhood except one LEFT after high school/college to move somewhere else. Mostly, out of NYS entirely. I moved to NH. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE.
A few years ago I was thinking about buying a 1980s Mercedes SL550-560. This is the same convertible model with a 5.5-5.6 liter V8 engine. What I was surprised was that it ONLY had 227 HP.
Then I did a little research on some of the “muscle cars” from back in the early 1970s. The Trans Am even with a 6 liter engine never had more than 345 HP.
The 1960s-1970s GTO was a maximum of 360HP.
My point is that there are 3.5 liter V6 engines now that attain 300+ HP easily. Put on a turbo charger and they are 400HP. I am still not going to buy a Tacoma with a 2.4 Liter 4 Cylinder turbo charged engine though. I will keep the V6 one I am currently driving.
I have never been a fan of those engines either, having had zero luck with V-6’s going back to the mid-80’s. Until I bought my 2020 F150 with a 3.5 dual turbo setup. FWIW, that engine is a beast! And I have had zero problems with it going on 5 years, so the reliability is decent.
My 2020 F150 has a 3.5 dual turbo setup that puts out 360 hp, and that’s the low end of what that will do. Same engine, same turbos does 470 or better in the Raptor.
Yep.
There were V8 engines in the 1980s that were dogs and yet still guzzled the gas.
Round that same time, pontiac came out with the quad4 (a 4-banger that had better respiration because of the 4 valves per cylinder) and Buick had their grand national V6 which could beat your average chevy small block V8.
While I’m no tree-hugger per se (Actually I love trees), one of the alternate benefits of engines being forced to become much more efficient isn’t just the fuel savings, but also the amount of power that you could derive. So, speaking of displacement, you could reduce displacement but increase efficiency, or you could keep displacement and increase power.
I would expect that after so many decades of making engines, American companies should be able to build something solid.
Yes, I had family there.
All died or moved away!
When visiting, I was always surprised by the poverty of the Upstate. Everything seem to be going down over there.
I can see some people like living in NYC, but not in Upstate!
Indeed
Mass x Velocity = Speed
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