Posted on 05/27/2025 1:44:58 PM PDT by RandFan
Blow it out your ass Rand.
I've been thinking a lot lately that the tariffs are, in some way, the Fair Tax some of us FReepers have been supporting. If tariffs do raise prices so that the govt can get some money, then it's indirectly a fair tax. Or at least, it would be if we got rid of the income tax. (The idea of a Fair Tax is it would replace the income tax, not be a new tax in addition to the income tax.)
But one could argue that the Trump tax cuts are a lowering of income tax, with tariffs replacing some of what we used to pay in income taxes. So us Fair Tax supporters are getting half of what we wanted. And this version of the Fair Tax is only on purchases of imports (tariffs), not on all purchases.
This is the first big Bill since President Trump was inaugurated in January. He hasn’t even been in office for six months, and Rand Paul wants to oppose the President so early in his term? Shame on him.
Now isn't the time for Rand to oppose the President's Bill, but if wants to die on that hill, let him.
Rand’s an ideologue, sometimes useful but sometimes worthless.
The only sane way out of this mess is to grow the economy but rand would rather we import cheap asian products while our people don’ make enough to live on.
Or we can pay off the debt by inflation which is destroying the middle class.
TAXPAYERS!
WE didn't run up the debt over 60 years. WE weren't in Congress.
The people who did this were the Congressmen, Senators, and POTUSes who voted for and signed these spending bills.
There's an historical record of how much deficit and debt accumulated under which Congressmen and Senators.
It could be determined exactly how much each one owed for the overspending.
It's the fault and the RESPONSIBILITY of the legislators and the POTUSes.
Nice try attempting to shove it off on the people.
Interesting idea
Thanks. Maybe some type of salary disincentive that is linked to the rate of increase in Debt Per Taxpayer. Or perhaps even an inverse incentive that rewards cost cutting to reduce the taxpayer’s burden. The DOGE team could probably come up with an interesting formula to induce more congressional spending discipline.
This spend-a-thon, malinvestment and generational theft can’t go on. It simply must be reversed and contained.
“NOW? WHY DIDN’T YOU “SOUND THE ALARM “ when dems were in charge?. Worthless POS. I felt the same way Trey Gowdy. Talk and no action. He is still the same.”
Good grief, you’re getting busted for the “Worthless POS” comment.
Because if you had done even 5 minutes of research you would have found the following:
“Kentucky US Sen. Rand Paul reintroduces bill aimed at managing $34 trillion national debt”
https://www.wdrb.com/news/politics/kentucky-us-sen-rand-paul-reintroduces-bill-aimed-at-managing-34-trillion-national-debt/article_06e0e268-b0c8-11ee-b9af-1fde4d48ffb7.html
and this:
“Rand Paul Slams National Debt Crisis, Inflation, and Socialism in Memorable Senate Speech”
https://fee.org/articles/rand-paul-slams-national-debt-crisis-inflation-and-socialism-in-memorable-senate-speech/
and this:
“Dr. Rand Paul Introduces Conservative Alternative to Biden-McCarthy Debt Deal”
https://www.paul.senate.gov/dr-rand-paul-introduces-conservative-alternative-to-biden-mccarthy-debt-deal/
and this:
“Sen. Rand Paul: We Are Rapidly Approaching $30 Trillion Of Debt”
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/10/07/sen_rand_paul_we_are_rapidly_approaching_30_trillion_of_debt.html
“Funny he was not worried about it obama or biden were president. rand is a grandstanding loser who is hell bent on stopping Trump.”
Sure he was re: Biden. See my previous post. DO SOME RESEARCH.
Hmm. Yeah. See post 49.
Well good for him. Did he say anything about how Trump was the one who was going to try to fix it and not the worthless pos colleagues in the senate?
Or did he trash Trump on the campaign trail
That’s my problem with him.
All talk
His concern for the deficit and debt is irrespective of who the President is.
I don’t see it that way
He can think or say a lot and propose budgets to the McConnell senate all day long. Nothing is going to happen until maga fixes it.
It should be pro rated and divided among current and former Members of Congress, the POTUS, and VPOTUS.
They incurred the debt.
No citizen voter ever incurred a penny of national debt.
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