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'Discussions are going nowhere': Trump flips out and orders 50% tariff starting next week
MSN ^ | 5 23 | Story by Tom Boggioni

Posted on 05/23/2025 9:06:45 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: odawg

Then pull our troops out of Europe, then, Let them take care of the Big Bad Bear.


21 posted on 05/23/2025 9:49:52 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: kvanbrunt2

It’s tariff related. Every non-food item has gone up in price whether by a few percent or doubled or trippled in price. Everything from nuts and bolts to auto parts and clothing. Because even if your jeans are made in the USA, the spare parts and needles for the sewing machines are not.


22 posted on 05/23/2025 9:52:59 AM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: dennisw

50% is a bit much and that level of tariff will backfire. I am not against tariffs but common sense should play a role in determining how they are levied.


23 posted on 05/23/2025 9:54:39 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: odawg
The EU is going to be a tough nut to crack, since it is governed by unelected bureaucrats that are not accountable to anyone.

I've no doubt Donaldus Maximus Trump knows just the leverage and incentives required to make them come to the table.

In the meantime, they have growing conservative movements and backlash economically.

24 posted on 05/23/2025 9:56:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: lastchance

If you start with 50%, the final 10% sounds like you got a fantastic deal.

80% OFF...


25 posted on 05/23/2025 9:57:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: dennisw

Good for Mr. Trump. It’s long past time to stop treating the EuroLosers like friends. Aside from the Italians (occasionally), they haven’t been our friends for a long time.


26 posted on 05/23/2025 10:02:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: dennisw

I’m fine with 50% on the EU. Not sure what I buy from the Euroweenies anyway.....

Can someone tell me something that I need to buy from the EU?


27 posted on 05/23/2025 10:05:34 AM PDT by caver ( )
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To: dennisw

Trump got tired of the runaround by the communists in the EU.


28 posted on 05/23/2025 10:15:20 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: dennisw

I’m good with this...


29 posted on 05/23/2025 10:16:42 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: dennisw

I can live without anything from the EU.


30 posted on 05/23/2025 10:27:06 AM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back)
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To: dennisw

Cool. Buy on the dips.


31 posted on 05/23/2025 10:39:43 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: dennisw

He also threatened Apple with a 25% tariff on its iPhones - does he work for Samsung?

Samsung, Apple’s largest phone competitor, is facing no announced tariffs.


32 posted on 05/23/2025 10:46:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dennisw

Making iPhones in the US would add $2000-2500 to the price - US labor is way more expensive than Korea [ where Samsung is based ] or Vietnam or India or China. Add to the labor, the cost of building giant plants, the cost of sourcing and importing all the parts and, soon enough iPhones would be priced out of the market entirely.

Like 47 is deliberately trying to destroy Apple, taking NASDAQ with it?


33 posted on 05/23/2025 10:51:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: webheart

Remember back in the 90s when Clinton’s DOJ was suing Gates and Microsoft, Internet Explorer? Then the EU got in on the the grif. Since that time the EU has “taxed” US corporations becasue the US produces nothing near what is required to support their social(ism) democracy. They have used the world trade courts to scam billions of dollars from US corporations.

Enter the Ukraine war and Zelinski. The EU is still threatening US corproations openly via the politicans mouth’s and in the their press.

The US has provided billions of dollars in direct payments into EU countries hosting US forces. The US military has created mini cities dependent upon workers, goods and services from host nations for running US bases and supporting US personnel. All the money is a direct contribution to European countries.

The US needs to draw down NATO. If we draw down the US payments it hurts the economies of countries who depend upon supporting US forces. But wait, it gets only worst. The US cannot afford to keep forward deployed armies on foreign soil at at time of 38T in financed debt. It is cheaper to keep them on US soil and the keep the money in our economy.

The EU is facing recession. The German economy has shutdown the majority of manufacturing since the Ukraine conflict and their rejection of cheap energy; they have replaced it with energy that cost 3.5 - 4x what the Russian energy costs - and that means they cannot manufacture products and export them; thus they move manufacturing off shore. The Brits left pensioners without heat and took 10% of their pensions for Ukraine two years ago... The French have watch their colonies using the Franc overseas fall from 11 to 8 and from 4% to 3% of their population. The US reducint US troops in EU removes money they can not afford to lose at this time.

As long as the US in heavily involved in EUrope, they have up to 10% of their total economies involved in military go round. The EUropean Central Banks of these countries, and the EU Bank itself, are over extended and if they have to write off the assets on their balance sheets located in Ukraine they will be technially insolvent... recessions lurking... US forces drawing down... US out of Ukraine and the money made on the transit of military goods and services paid in majority by the US within the EU economies and you have the recipe for disaster in Europe.

The American financial interdependency that the EUropeans have relied upon since 1947’s Marshall Plan running thru 67-71 which in turn was repalced by VATs in the EU budgets, is now again bringing disruptions to the European economies.

Without the US financial injections to Europe the Europeans will have to get their people working again. Even with the American’s pouring money into their economnies since WWII, since the 90s the EUropean countries have at best had less than one percent GDP reported year over year. Without the US recession is a given

Trump cannot get the EU to help him bring Zelinski to the table and they want war. The EU economies depend upon War this very moment. Without the Ukraine confict they go into recession.

Trump is gently nugging the EU opposition aligned with Biden/DNC/Rino Globalists into either working together with the Trump agenda, or they can wait him out and suffer.

Walking away from Ukraine, and putting tariffs upon the EU who has been planning more billions of dollars in trade judgements against US companies has finally confronted a president who will fight them.


34 posted on 05/23/2025 10:56:48 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: electricjack

Who ya “weenieing”?!?


35 posted on 05/23/2025 11:11:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dennisw

100 percent and pull our Troops from Europe!


36 posted on 05/23/2025 11:16:03 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: dennisw


"MSN carries lots of Fox News, so it is somewhat fair."









37 posted on 05/23/2025 11:24:30 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Jumper

interesting take on the situation, thanks for posting


38 posted on 05/23/2025 12:46:09 PM PDT by SteveH
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